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LendInk taken down by asshole indie authors

LendInk taken down by asshole indie authors

Update for new visitors:  Please visit this new post here to help me prove to one author who hates LendInk what the power of the market can bring him.

This post is where I will list the asshole authors who filed complaints against the site. If you know any of their names, post it in the comments.  You are also welcome to post about this article on my Facebook update, which is publicly accessible without being friends with me.

1. Quick note: if you support this history archive, click the “Like” button just to the left here.

2. If you want to help, contact the people listed below (their names are links to their Facebook or Twitter pages) and ask them to retract their statement and make a formal and public apology.  If they do, I will also link to their apologies.

3. Purchase a T-shirt (proceeds go to LendInk.com or a reading program):

The LendInk destruction news is just breaking in the past 48 hours.  Check out April Hamilton’s excellent and updated article titled “Congratulations: You Killed LendInk And Denied Your Fellow Authors Their Lend Royalties

If you are an author listed below and believe you were listed in error, post a comment.  If you are an author below and there is visible proof of your inability to read the FAQ on LendInk’s old site, too bad.

I will be attempting to add the author’s book pages at Amazon.com and BN.com so you can access what books never to buy in an easier fashion.  This will take some time.

Thanks to Erik Gjertsen for making the following list.

Here are some of authors who slammed LendInk’s Facebook page:

(I am adding them newest-to-the-top of this article as I find them)

Are these two women the ones who started it?

Helen White appears to be one of the initiators of the LendInk madness, but unfortunately she deleted all her tweets.  Do you have a screen capture of what she said?  Post in the comments!

You can also visit her website page about it here.

Another alleged initiator, Miranda Stork tweeted: “Likewise I’m very proud to know @Helen_White2011 and call her a friend, because she helped no end in the lendink fight :D

Other authors or people who posted against LendInk:

Danielle D Smith tweeted: “Readers: boycott lendink.com!! #book #piracy is THEFT!!!!! Don’t support pirates who steal bread from author’s mouths!”

Cliterati tweeted: “@lendink You have Ultimate Decadence on your site. All profits go to Macmillan. You are taking money from cancer support. Please remove it”

Emily Guido-Author tweeted: “Author beware I just sent a COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT NOTICE TO THIS BOOTLEG SITE. Make sure your work is not on there! lendink.com”

Petra Kidd tweeted: “This site is listing my ebooks without my permission lendink.com - if you are an author check yours. Have emailed for removal.”

Amber Rose Thompson tweeted: “Is it a sign that I’m making it that lendink is stealing from me by listing all six of my books?”

ElectaGraham (Electa Scott Graham) tweeted: “@DouglasRCobb no answer from lendink, and my books are still there. Amazon says that they aren’t authorized to do it.”

Delinda McCann tweeted: “Authors! What is up with this site? lendink.com Why do they think they can lend my book? Is yours there?”

Dr. Joy Davidson retweeted: “RT @Helen_White2011: To all authors, check that your book is not here for free  lendink.com email Amazon at once if it is.”

Douglas R. Cobb tweeted: “Smashwords authors, Kindle ones, Kobo, Nook, etc: Should a company like LendInk ”lend” ebooks w/out your permission? If you think NO, RT!”

Elicia M. Seawell, who tweeted: “LendInk was taken down! Such a great day for small publishers working hard to promote legitimate means of distributing our works!”


HazelNuts, who tweeted: “Looks like our Lendink.com complaints may have worked as the site has closed!”

Danielle Yockman, who said: “This site is pirating books that they have no rights to. They are common thieves. Please remember that authors are people working to make a living too. The average author makes less than 50K a year, more like 20-30K if they are lucky and dedicated. Most authors work a day job to pay the bills and then write at night.”

Robin Helm
, who said: “Remove my books from your lists immediately or I will organize a class-action lawsuit with all the authors from whom you have stolen.”

OG Tomes, who said: “My name is O. G. Tomes and I am the Author of The Sanctuary Saga: No Harm to Charm, book one; Test of Faith, book two and Charms of the Sisterhood,vol. I, II and III. A website that your company hosts (according to WHOIS information) is infringing on at least five copyrights owned by my company.
Articles were copied onto your servers without permission. The original BOOKS, and their covers to which I own the exclusive copyrights, can be found at:
Amazon.com and Smashwords.com
The unauthorized and infringing copy can be found at:
This letter is official notification under Section 512(c) of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (”DMCA”), and I seek the removal of the aforementioned infringing material from your servers. I request that you immediately notify the infringer of this notice and inform them of their duty to remove the infringing material immediately, and notify them to cease any further posting of infringing material to your server in the future.
Please also be advised that law requires you, as a service provider, to remove or disable access to the infringing materials upon receiving this notice. Under US law a service provider, such as yourself, enjoys immunity from a copyright lawsuit provided that you act with deliberate speed to investigate and rectify ongoing copyright infringement. If service providers do not investigate and remove or disable the infringing material this immunity is lost. Therefore, in order for you to remain immune from a copyright infringement action you will need to investigate and ultimately remove or otherwise disable the infringing material from your servers with all due speed should the direct infringer, your client, not comply immediately.
I am providing this notice in good faith and with the reasonable belief that rights my company owns are being infringed. Under penalty of perjury I certify that the information contained in the notification is both true and accurate, and I have the authority to act on behalf of the owner of the copyright(s) involved.
Should you wish to discuss this with me please contact me directly.
Thank you.
O. G. Tomes

Looks like The OG has another post, just as beautiful as the first: “To whom this must concern:


You have never and never will have permission to carry any of my books on file for lending. You shall remove my works from your site immediately!!

I am the author and sole owner to the rights of the following books:
The Sanctuary Saga:
No Harm to Charm, book 1 and the Test of Faith, book 2
Charms of the Sisterhood Volumes I,II,and III.A total of 5 books listed on your site that you do not have permission to copy or lend.These infringements are located on your site for lending without my permission.I, O. G. Tomes, am complaining of the infringement upon my legal rights.I demand that you remove my hard work that you have posted as free! I have not given this permission to any one!You may contact me at: ogtomes@yahoo.com
This is a statement of good faith belief that the material you are lending belongs solely to me,
O. G. Tomes”

Buck Stienke, who said: “You have no right to post and re-transmit my e-books on your site. Doing so is in violation of US Copyright law and is punishable under federal statute. Remove Black Eagle Force:Eye of the Storm and Sacred Mountain immediately.”

Dawn Sinclair, who said: “Remove my books from your lists immediately…The Eternal Question and Children of Hamelin. I am seeking legal action…”

Joyce Godwin Grubbs, who said: “You have illegally put 11 of my novels on your site; remove them immediately. I have notified all the authors on my list and all are contacting their publishers.”

Tony Riches, who said: “Please remove my three books from this site. My novel Queen Sacrifice took over a year to write and I consider book piracy to be theft from authors. Any readers who download stolen books are also guilty of stealing from authors.”

Aimée Reinhart Avery, who said: “I own the copyright to my books and I did NOT give you permission to put them on your sight for lending. REMOVE THEM IMMEDIATELY!”

Rebecca Treadway, who said: “Everyone who has had their book illegally listed on this website needs to put in a call or letter to the local chapter of the FBI in your city or state.”

Lisa Kz, who said: “Remove my novel please “One Good Man or Two” by Winter K. Anderson.”

Mari Passananti, who said: “Please remove my novel, THE HAZARDS OF HUNTING WHILE HEARTBROKEN, immediately.”

Melody Peugh, who said: “Remove my novel, Michaela’s Gift, immediately.”

Stephen Dafoe, who said: “I’ll add my name to this list of people pissed off that you are lending my book without my permission. This will serve as your only notice that you are to remove my book Morgan: The scandal that shook Freemasonry from your service immediately.”

Karen Kennedy Samoranos, who said: “Remove my books, “Road Apples,” “The Curious Number” and “Death By Bitter Waters” immediately, and any other books by Karen Kennedy Samoranos. Neither I, nor my publisher, Musa Publishing, have authorized lending of these three aforementioned ebooks for Kindle and Nook, or any other device not listed here. I have notified the relevant outlets, Amazon, and Barnes & Noble. You will also receive an email at: contact@lendink.com, with the same demand to remove these three books from your web site.”

Gerry Huntman, who said: “Remove my book Guardian of the Sky Realms, I gave you no permission to steal it. And to the people who ‘liked’ LendInk, congratulations in contributing to make it REAL HARD for struggling writers to get enough money to go pro.”

Rhea Rhodan, who said: “You are illegally lending my book, FINDING GRACE. Take it down immediately. Anyone who takes a book from this site is taking food out of my mouth and clothes off my back.”

Kai Starr (Kaichi Satake), who said: “You guys have three of my ebooks for Kindle and Nook available for lending. I have not authorized this, through either service. Please remove all books by Kai Starr and Kaichi Satake. I’ve notified Amazon and Barnes and Noble, as well as sent an email to your contact address, asking for the removal of these books. Thank you for your help in this.”

Anne Barnhill, who said: “Remove my book, AT THE MERCY OF THE QUEEN immediately.”

Vicki Batman, who said: “Remove my books, I Believe and Man Theory and Other Stories. Cease and Desist NOW.”

James F. Ross, who said: “Remove my book, I Am Flying, from your site; you do not have my permission to loan it or use it in any form.  James F. Ross”

Scarlet Hunter, who said: “I demand that you immediately remove all of my books, from your LendInk site. I further demand that you NEVER again illegally post any of my books on your site. My publisher has been notified of your piracy of my work.”

Merris Hawk, who said: “This site violates anti-piracy laws, facilitating the theft of copyrighted material by serving as a contact point for file holders and file requests.”

Cathie Dunn, who said: “Remove my three books, Dark Deceit, Highland Arms and Silent Deception from your site, including art work. You don’t have my permission, nor my publisher’s, to share the ebooks through your site.”

Roscoe James, who said: “US based server. You can report the lendink.com pirate site for abuse at – OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE1761-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Abuse Department
OrgAbusePhone: +1-619-819-8252
OrgAbuseRef: http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ABUSE1761-ARIN
Drop them a line. I will be shortly.RJ”

Trish Marie Dawson, who said: “Remove my book and/or book image of I Hope You Find Me, immediately from your site. You are illegally distributing it on your site which is a violation of my Copyrights. I want my name, my book’s title, the book image and or any book content removed from your site. Today.”

Mark Patton, who said: “Remove my book, Undreamed Shores, immediately, or I will refer the matter to my representatives, Mischon de Reya.”

Sandra Peddle, who said: “Remove The Crone Club and The Moon Maiden by S. V. Peddle from your site immediately. You do not have our permission to distribute our books for free and this is an infringement of our copyright.”

Bill Wilbur, who said: “Remove my book from your site immediatly and cease all interactions!”

Rachel Lyndhurst, who said: “Please remove my book Kidnapped by the Greek Billionaire from your site immediately. You do NOT have permission to lend this book, neither does the woman on your site who is offering it. My book isn’t ‘Lending Enabled’ on Amazon.com either. Please take it DOWN.”

Bill Van Oosten, who said: “What you are doing is illegal and processes are being put in place to stop this practice. I suggest that you comply with the requests to remove all books that you do not have permissions for.”

Melinda Hammond, who said: “Lending books without permission is PIRACY. Please remove all books by Melinda Hammond and Sarah Mallory from your site, with immediate effect.”

Chrystalla Thoma, who said: “I am the author of two books on your site (Rex Rising and Hera) and I have never given permission for you to post them there – indeed, any of my author friends whose books you have posted. I am kindly asking, please, to take them down now.”

She also said: “And in fact you have all my books… Please take them all down now. Rex Rising, Rex Cresting, Hera, Dioscuri, The Angel Genome. Today.”

David Naughton-Shires, who said: “I respectfully request you remove all Knightwatch Press publications from you web site immediately, you do not have my permission as owner of the Press of of the authors of the publications to ‘lend’ these books.

I look forward to a speedy conclusion to this situation and hope we can deal with this without the requirement of lawyers

David Naughton-Shires
Creative Director/Owner
KnightWatch Press



Kate McCormick, who said: “You do not have permission to offer my anthology of short stories, written under the name Elizabeth Ducie, on your site. Please remove it immediately.”


Captain Caps-Lock also said (earlier): “SECOND INSTRUCTION!!! GET MY BOOKS OFF YOUR SITE NOW !!!!!”

And Mr. All Caps started it all off with this lovely and well-written diatribe: “WHO GAVE YOU PERMISSION TO LEND MY BOOKS FOR FREE?


Oh boy, found another from Mr. Gallacher.  This time he thankfully did not use all caps entirely: “I see my two novels are on your site WITHOUT MY PERMISSION … As far as I’m aware, This is tantamount to PIRACY and COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT . Please remove my books immediately from your site ..”

Juliet Cardin, who said: “Remove all Juliet Cardin books from your site, effective immediately.”

Benita Brown, who said: “I did not give permission so please remove my novels from your site:Dark Fugitive, Desire Unbidden, The Savage Tide, The Brides of Eden, A Dark Legacy, Sophie’s Wedding, A Marriage Vow. All by Benita Brown writing as Clare Benedict”

Julie Parker, who said: “Remove all Julie Parker books from your site, effective immediately.”

Jenny Woodall, who said: “Please remove my 3 titles written under the pen name of Victoria Howard. You do not have my or my publisher’s permission on your site. Failure to comply will result in legal action under Copyright infringement.   Ring of lies; Three weeks Last Spring; The house on the shore.”

Pam Mangol Bitner, who said: “I see many books on your site that cannot be lended through Amazon’s program because the publisher does not participate in the program. I know because I own a copy. You’ll be getting a DRMC notice from me soon for the books of mine you have listed.”

Liz Ringrose, who said: “Please remove my novella “Favourite Things” from your site. I did not authorise you to display it there.”

Joseph Nilson, who said: “This a scam website”

Anne Polhill Walton, who said: “You are infringing international copyright laws by displaying my books on your site without my author’s permission – which I do not/will never grant. My pen name is Nell Peters, titles are Hostile Witness/Double You/Santa’s Slays/Ernestine/I’ve Lost My Voice/The Ferret Has Landed/The World According to Bazil Bratt (aged 8)/Write Therapy/The Grubbits. Please remove these titles immediately and confirm that you have done so.”

She also tweeted about it: “Ah – I see the lendink.com site has been suspended…”

Lesley Cookman, who said: “Please remove all Lesley Cookman and Rosina Lesley titles from your site, which is illegally offering them.”

M.m. Bennetts, who said: “Kindly remove my books from your site, effective immediately. Your publication these pirated versions of them is an infringement of copyright. Sincerely, M.M. Bennetts”

Prue Batten, who said: “I write my books as a living. Every time you ‘lend’ this book, you are depriving me of income.

To explain, its like you walking out of the office with your pay check and the landlord immediately asking for half back.

Immoral. Hardly the way to give your site a good reputation.”

Karl Jones, who said: “I have just been told about your site and discovered that you are listing all five of my books, please take them down immediately.
The books are
A Brother’s Debt
The Night Guy
Right Dress, Wrong Girl
Lauren’s Nightmare”

Anna Jacobs, who said: “THIEVES. You are NOTHING BUT thieves! Stealing my books. It takes me several months to write each book and I have earned payment for that.”

Deborah Gafford, who said: “These people are THIEVES! They do NOT have the author or publisher’s permission to do this!”

She also said, “This is an ILLEGAL PIRATE SITE. They STEAL AUTHOR’S WORK!!! Do NOT use this site!!”

Nely Cab, who said: “I’ve never consented to have my book lent out or borrowed on your website. Remove it. -Nely Cab”

Tessa Berkley, who said: “I am a palled to see you have listed one of my books and it is not yet up for sale. You do not have my permission to have books to lend or lease.”

Debra E Marvin, who said: “illegal use”

Nan O’Berry, who said: “Do not buy from this service. I did not lend my consent for my books to be placed in this companies files. This is a scam. I have notified my publishers and Amazon. Shameful.”

Steve Biddison, who said: “The books on this page are being pirated. No one has given permission to lend these books. They are copyrighted by various authors and legal action will be taken if this site does not remove unauthorized books. This is an ILLEGAL site”

Sharon Cathcart, who said: “You do not have my permission to lend out my books or in any way to make a profit from my COPYRIGHTED WORK. You were not authorized to take my books for distribution. And yet, you did — every single one of them. You have pirated my books. Consider this a cease-and-desist. The next communication will be from my attorney.”

Lauren Gilbert, who said: “You do not have my permission to post my book on your site. Please remove it.”

Naty Matos, who said: “COPYRIGHT INFRINGMENT – You Do not have my permission to have my books on your site. TAKE THEM OFF YOUR SITE IMMEDIATELY. Author Naty Matos”

Renaissance Romance Publishing, who said: “COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT: Lend Ink has in no way been authorized to redistribute any works published by our house, or by any of our authors. These include Laura Braley, Lisa Bilbrey, Michele Richard, Estelle Mars, and B.F. Betty. Remove ALL titles associated with our publishing house and authors immediately, or we will pursue legal action for lost revenues. A cease and desist letter has been sent to your site, as well.”

Tory Michaels, who said: “You do not have permission to post my books on your site (Blood Rage & Blood-Mage Rising). I have emailed you at the contact email and filed a report. Please take the books down immediately.”

Shawn Lamb, who said: “COPYRIGHT INFRINGMENT – You have pirated my books WITHOUT MY PERMISSION. TAKE THEM OFF YOUR SITE IMMEDIATELY. Author Shawn Lamb!”

She also tweeted:  ”VICTORY!! Lendink is no more! Thanks, #authors & #readers, for taking a stand against piracy and illegal lending.”

Cerian Williams Hebert, who said: “You do not have permission to lend my books. Please remove all titles by Ceri Hebert.”

Karen Cino, who said: “Please remove all of my books immediately.”

LaVerne Clark, who said: “Please remove both of my books – “Affinity” and “Guardian of the Jewel” immediately from your site. You do not have permission from Amazon, Barnes & Noble, my publisher Wild RosePress, or myself to sell them.”

Erin Dameron-Hill, who said: “Remove all of Erin Dameron-Hill ’s self-published books as well as her New Concepts Published books. You are stealing copyrighted material and legal action will be taken if you do not comply.”

Kissa Starling, who said: “Remove all of my books as Kissa Starling and K. Starling from your site immediately or you will be contacted by my lawyer. If you are downloading books from this site as a reader you are responsible for this illegal activity as well. I suggest you terminate your membership.”

Emily Harvale, who said: “Please immediately remove my book from your site. You do not have my permission and you are in breach of my copyright.”

Rosalind Smith-Nazilli, who said: “Please also remove my book immediately. Thank you.”

Paula Martin, who said: “Please remove my books from this site as I have not given you permission to lend them. This is an illegal copyright infringement.”

Melanie Pearce, who said: “Please can you remove my books from your site. I have not agreed for you to lend my books, you do not have permission, Thanks”

Theresa Grimm, who said: “Pirate site…..”

Jeanette Baird Vaughan, who said: “EVERYONE ON THIS SITE!!! EMAIL ME YOUR ADDYS AND WE WILL FILE A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT!”  She also got into a long conversation in her comments section about seeking legal advice.  Haha, the only advice she’s going to get is from the readers that will stop buying her books because she’s now listed on this history archive I made.

The Mistress of Caps-Lock also went on inanely like so: “GET MY BOOK OFF YOUR SITE OR I WILL FILE A CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT FOR COPYRIGHT VIOLATION IN HRS!! LOOKS LIKE I will have plenty of takers for your illegal lending!!!!! Do you hear me???”


Trevor Belshaw, who said: “Why are you lending out my books without permission. Please remove all of Trevor Forest and T A Belshaw books immediately. This is illegal copyright infringement”

Pam Howes, who said: “Please remove my book from your site. This is a copyright infringement.”


Remove my book from your site immediately

Gayl Taylor”

Raven McAllan, who said: “Copyright infringement and theft”

Virginia McKevitt, who said: “Take my book off of your site. You do not have permission from me. My work is copyrighted and what you are doing is illegal.”

Morticia Knight, who said: “This is an illegal pirate book lending site and should be shut down immediately. You are stealing from me and my family – this is how I support them. I have not given permisiion to have my books given away for FREE at this site and I demand you take them down immediately under DMCA. Anyone reading this – share with your friends and report to Amazon!”

Looks like as far back as August 1st, there were people going in to defend LendInk, but none of the people on my page here seemed to care.

Judith Arnopp Novelist, who said: “you are in full breach of copyright laws, stealing money from struggling authors. what you are doing is totally immoral.”

Heather Nelson, who said: “You are ILLEGALLY lending my book AND my husband Ryan Nelson‘s book. We ARE reporting you!”

Ruth Watson-Morris Voxian Series, who said: “I have just found both of my books on a pirate site, hope their hands fall off theiving idiots!”

Rebecca Rynecki, who said: “Pirate site! I see my book is on there, and they have no rights to it. Stay away!”

Victoria Pearson Writer, who said: “You seem to have my book, Strange Love and my blog Victoria’s Notebook on your site. I did not give you permission to use my work, nor did I give permission for anyone not affliated with Amazon to lend it in any way. I suggest you remove ALL pirated material from your site immediatly, before legal action is tken against you.”

Cassandre Dayne, who said: “I see nothing legit about your site period and you would not have been taken down by any authors who addressed their concerns. You must realize that. To have your account suspended, which it was, meant the accusations were indeed investigated and found to at least be suspect.”

Additional authors who complained without performing any due diligence

(I will be attempting to get screen caps of their comments):

People who posted to LendInk’s Facebook page but removed their comments: Ken Farmer,  Alisha Paige, Gerry Huntman, Deb Harris, Nanette Del Valle Bradford, Ella James

I’m still going through these:  Linda Gillard, Jenny Woodall, Maxi Shelton, David J Howe.

Related posts to peruse:

  1. Another LendInk-aggressing indie author: Charles Buckett
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  1. David says:

    Here are some names I caught on the tweet. They helped spread the rumors. No RTing, they made actual composed tweets. No idea how innocent they are, but I won’t be buying them anytime soon for jumping the gun.

    Nicola Rhodes
    E. Jamie
    John M. Davis
    Seumas Gallacher
    Diane Nelson
    Miranda Stork-FACT.
    Cassandra Dayne
    Petra Kidd
    Helen White

    The only one I can pretty much confirm is Miranda Stork. You can see others cheer her on through the facebook page too where she retells what she said.


    Just in case it disappears or is edited, this is what she said:

    Just to let everyone know, if you want to copy and past, this is the email I have sent to Lendink.com

    I’m posting this purely because a few people have asked, you are more than welcome to include that you know of my email, and mention parts of it.

    “To whom it may concern,

    I am emailing you to let you know that you have four of my books illegally up on your sight. I have DRM for all four of them, and they are not available for lending, here, or on any other website, with the exception of Amazon itself, or it’s affiliates. You say yourselves that you are not an affiliate of Amazon, and so are lending these books illegally. I would appreciate it if you would please remove them from your site immediately, and I would suggest you check carefully to see you do not have any other indie author books that are DRM protected, as I could see quite a few. I have also informed these other authors, (of which there are many, I know at least 300+, who I have contacted), and they will be getting in touch with you themselves.

    I have also contacted Amazon, who have confirmed they are not affiliated with you, and this matter has been passed over to their main team, so no doubt they will contact you shortly themselves.

    The four books are;

    Conner-Miranda Stork
    With You In Spirit-Miranda Stork
    Playing With Fire-Miranda Stork
    Craving-Miranda Stork

    I shall be checking back throughout the day to check that the books have been removed form your site. My solicitor has also been informed, and will duly be checking that my books, as well as all other books illegally on your site, have been removed also.

    Thank you,

    Miranda Stork

    • A.B. Dada says:


      • Dave Head says:

        Here’s another name you can add to the boycott list:
        James D. McDonald
        He claims that LendInk had no right to exist without the permission of the publishing community. No not the contract with Amazon (which he considers invalid) but to contact all the authors & publishers (like Random House) and ask permission to sell books.

    • Cassandre Dayne says:

      I suggest you get your facts straight since Cassandre Dayne doesn’t even have a twitter account. No tweets were made, nor do I choose to continue with any discussions with this incredible and very saddened mob mentality. What a shame for everyone involved.

      • A.B. Dada says:

        Look above, Cassandre — I posted a screen capture of your Facebook comment, along with a link to what you said exactly.

        So fuck you.

      • Cassraole says:

        I find it quite rich that you criticize the mob mentality of Lendink supporters. Please explain to us how what you did was any different.

        • A.B. Dada says:

          Is that a response to Cassandre Dayne or to me?

        • Break says:

          It’s different, because someone’s website was taken down because of lies and ignorance.

          People’s books have not been taken down (in ranking) YET (and i hope they do get blasted by 1 star ratings), and that would be based 100% on truth.

          • JR Tomlin says:

            My defense of LendInk is quite well documented on KindleBoards and Critique Circle so I feel quite qualified in speaking out here.

            If you give FALSE reviews or harass the authors who did this, you are NO BETTER THAN THEY ARE. Is that what you want?

            That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t pay for their actions. I agree with not buying their books and I will not re-tweet them or post on their blogs or allow them to post on mine. Those actions punish them in an honest way.

            Unless they post SINCERE apologies. If I see real apologies (and not I’m sorry I did it but it was really his fault ones) then I’ll take them off my boycott list. But let’s not compound one wrong with a second wrong. That doesn’t help.

          • Dave Head says:

            Yes that’s what I want. These authors deserve to be PUNISHED for what they did. They sent nasty emails and put LendInk out of business. They deserve to receive nasty emails too (through amazon 1-star reviews) and lose business as well. The punishment will then match what these bitch/bastard authors did to another person.

    • Araliss says:

      Issuing DMCA take take down notices is committing perjury if the site in question wasn’t doing anything wrong. Instead of black balling some of these authors, maybe we should set up a fund so he can sue these people for slander.

  2. S Palmer says:

    When I first started following this story I took a quick look at the tweet history and Helen White and Amanda Stork appear to have been the primary instigators. Helen even took it upon herself to create a blog for this sole purpose http://whiteh2011twitter.blogspot.com/?zx=f34589c9b3ffe45d

  3. Greg says:

    Stop apologizing for IP pirates. Lendink had books on it that it had no legal right to distribute in ANY form. The authors were simple defending their legitimate property rights and interests, and had every right to demand the offending material be withdrawn.

    Let me be clear (in case the above wasn’t clear enough): Those books belong to the COPYRIGHT HOLDERS (publisher or author), NOT to you or anyone else. If you want to read the material, either buy it from a legitimate book source or borrow it from a legitimate library (there’s at least one in just about every town).

    Stop thinking you have a right to steal!

    • A.B. Dada says:

      They didn’t pirate shit, you moron.

      Read this at TechDirt: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120807/21080519958/legit-ebook-lending-site-taken-down-angry-twitmob-writers.shtml

      Then come back and post an apology, or give me the phone number to your hot daughter, sister or female cousin.

      • Greg says:

        When an author or publisher says “I didn’t give you permission to post that” then by definition you stole it from them. Being “lent” is not an “opt out” proposition. Lendink did not have explicit permission PRIOR to posting some of it’s books. The owners of the rights very reasonably required their removal.

        YOU don’t own those books. The READERSHIP doesn’t own those books. The RIGHTS HOLDERS own those books.

        Deal with it.

        And I would think long and hard before organizing or encouraging any sort of retributive action against people lawfully exercising their property rights. That could be considered “harassment” at best.

        • A.B. Dada says:

          Read the fucking TechDirt article you imbecile.

          When an author signs up for Amazon KDP, they are required to allow their books to be lent out by those who buy them, to anyone that purchaser wants to lend them to.

          Go ahead, read the article

          I didn’t encourage any sort of retributive action here whatsoever, I have created a historical archive of the people who violated the rights and freedoms of the owner(s) of LendInk.com — people who were actually helping small authors get some recognition.

          I loan e-books out on my Nook all the time, and my friends who borrow those e-books tend to buy those e-books after reading them.

          If you’re an author, why not post your e-book titles here so I can make sure to never accidentally buy your filth.

          • Greg says:

            No, you’re just facilitating it with an archive. You know there will be retributive strikes. And boycotting is in and of itself a retributive act.

            If YOU chose to loan your copy through legitimate means (and that includes having EXPLICIT permission from the rights holder to do so) then that’s your business.

            If a rights holder says “you do NOT have my permission”, then that’s it. Game over. You don’t lend it, and you don’t allow others to use your site to lend it.




          • A.B. Dada says:

            All the site was doing was helping people connect online so they could use Amazon or BN’s website to legally share a book, per the TOS of both sites.

            LendInk.com did nothing wrong — they were a social network and never hosted any book content whatsoever. Even the book art was hosted and shared by Amazon or BN.

        • Mikko Tanner says:

          Greg… you utter fucking dumbass. Learn to read, and understand, before uttering your drivel again. You’re a disgrace to any sane, thinking human being.

          Seriously, read the Techdirt article and _understand_ it. Moron.

        • 1Maenad says:

          Greg, Mr. “Dada” had kindly afforded you the chance to properly read the details of the issue at hand before you came down with a serious case of foot-in-mouth syndrome. It is clear that you disregarded his suggestion and in essence made yourself to look extremely foolish. Sadly, these authors are just as misinformed as you and had taken it upon themselves to propagate lies and slander the site and it’s owner. The bottom line is the authors had signed contracts with Amazon and/or Barnes & Nobles which included the ability of consumers, who bought their books, the ability to lend said books, only once, for the duration of two weeks. The site in question, had the innovation of facilitating lending through (NOT circumventing) the original content distributors (Amazon and Barnes & Nobles). Lendink introduced lender A to would be borrower B and then the original content distributors handled the actual lending process. These authors should have, first, taken the time to research this process of lending and then reviewed their contracts for further understanding. They did neither; acted rashly and jumped to conclusions, much like you have. Such a disgrace.

        • Denise says:

          They CHOSE to allow their books to be lent out by selling them on AMZ or B&N. They agreed to the terms that said their books could be lent by the people who bought them- one time per book. This site only matched people who had a book to lend with someone who wanted to borrow it. Those authors have NO RIGHT to say who I can lend my book to, when I bought it under these terms.

          • Sharon E. Cathcart says:

            Except for one problem: some of us, like me, opted out of lending. I wrote a lengthy blog piece in which I eat crow, because I was wrong about LendInk. It’s right here. http://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_posts/2840433-lendink-why-i-was-angry-and-why-i-am-sorry.

            I am dealing with Amazon and B&N to find out why lending is apparently available when I unchecked the little box. My apologies to Mr. Porter. As I explain in the blog post, I did not send a notice to his ISP, although I did send an e-mail to the corrections address in his FAQ asking to have my books removed (per the procedure he listed).

            I get that you’re angry. I also get that it’s unlikely this post will see the light of day without me being cussed at for being wrong. Well, here’s my apology anyway.

          • A.B. Dada says:

            Nah, no cussing, you didn’t do anything as bad as those who attacked with a vengeance.

            I’ll make note of this, thanks.

        • Mani says:


          You are stupid. The author has no say in what I do with a book I legally own.

          I have a library right across the street. If an author send a letter to the library that she does not want her book to displayed in the library and she does give the library permission to list in their catalog. Would the library listen to it? Library would ask the author to fuck off, and go ahead and list it.

          Similarly LendInk has the right to display the title of the work (it has an agreement with Amazon & Barnes & nobel). And as a book owner I have the right to lend my work through Amazon & barnes & nobel. The authors can go fuck themselves.

        • Greg Hluska says:

          You’re not thinking too clearly, are you? Here’s a direct quote from Amazon’s Terms and Conditions:

          Kindle books can be loaned to another reader for a period of 14 days. The borrower does not need to own a Kindle — Kindle books can also be read using our free Kindle reading applications for PC, Mac, iPad, iPhone, BlackBerry, and Android devices. Not all books are lendable — it is up to the publisher or rights holder to determine which titles are eligible for lending. The lender will not be able to read the book during the loan period. Books can only be loaned once, and subscription content is not currently available for lending.

          (source – http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200549320)

          This means that, in order for anyone to lend/borrow a book via Amazon, the rights holder or the publisher had to make it eligible. Therefore, they already gave de facto permission for their books to be lent out.

          • Jeff says:

            You are right. It is up to the publisher or rights holder to determine which titles are available. And all the books that were available on Lendink were made available via the contract the author had with Amazon. You either allow lending, or you don’t allow lending.

            The authors needed to read their contracts. You don’t get to agree to lending (for a higher reimbursement amount) then complain when lending actually occurs, lending which is legally allowed via the contract the authors signed with Amazon..

        • Dave Head says:

          Greg ix a fucking idiot. LendInk did NOT sell books. LendInk did NOT loan books. As an Amazon affiliate all they did was link to Amazon.com and AMAZON was the one who sold or loaned books to others.

          So if you have a problem with selling/loaning books, then send your cease-and-desist notice to Amazon.com becuase they were the ones who commited the “crime”.

          Stu[id pusy licking idiopt.

        • Christian R. Conrad says:

          If I buy a printed book it is MINE, and I can do what I want with it — hide it in a safe, burn it, eat it… Or lend it to whomever I want. Apparently Amazon has set up this e-book system of theirs to work the same way, and authors agree to that when they sign up for it.

          So your gibbering about how he wouldn’t be allowed to lend an e-book to someone else is just as stupid as if Jean M. Auel were to barge in on my sister and yell about how Sis is not allowed to lend her copy of _Clan of the Cave Bear_ to a friend.

          Think mrs Auel would get very far with that? Nope; an harassment charge is all she’d get.

          And that’s exactly what these idiot authors should get, too.

          Baba is right: You, Greg, ARE a moron.

      • Bev Zech says:

        Is this type of site different from Napster? I don’t think so. The Federal Courts forced Napster to stop.


        • A.B. Dada says:

          Haha Bev, go fuck yourself. Obvious you went to public school and have a low IQ.

        • Denise says:

          This site didn’t file-share. This site didn’t distribute anything. Before you go try to destroy someone’s business, find out what they actually do. If you are too computer illiterate to understand, ASK SOMEONE. You are screwing with someone’s life, out of idiocy. It’s sick & it’s making all indie authors look like fools in the eyes of the public. I’m disgusted by you.

        • Nikki B. says:

          Yes, as a matter of fact, it is very different from Napster. Napster offered actual music files for free that were copied over and over again. Lendink did not.

          All Lendink did was provide a directory that allowed one person, who had LEGALLY PURCHASED an e-book to LEGALLY LEND (per Amazon and B&N’s LEGAL lending program) to someone interested in borrowing it. Not files were hosted by Lendink. No lends were made by Lendink.

          All actual lends took place within the Amazon/B&N sites (and according to the Amazon/B&N rules). Lendink only provided contact details so the two interested parties could facilitate the lending arrangement via the services provided by Amazon and B&N.

          Per Amazon/B&N’s, a purchased e-book may be lent ONCE, for 14 days, during which time it is removed from the owner’s reader and appears on the borrower’s reader. After 14 days, the e-book is returned to the owner and cannot be lent again.

          Authors are required to allow this arrangement per the contract they sign with Amazon/B&N if they wish to receive certain royalty levels. They are perfectly free to opt out, and if they do, the book cannot be lent (and in which case LendInk displayed a purchase link to Amazon/B&N instead).

        • Kermonk says:

          Well, its different in as much as they haven’t broken any laws or done anything illegal. The guy who ran the site, a veteran, has received threats against him and his family – that is probably illegal though.

          • A.B. Dada says:

            When people threaten my life, I sleep with their sisters or (of age) daughters or wives or girlfriends and send them photos.

            It’s way better than calling the cops.

    • Steven Metke says:

      lendink.com never had ANY books and never distributed any books. Perception to the contrary were badly mistaken. You really should read the techdirt.com article on the matter, your continued protests are making you come across as a frothing lunatic, which I’m sure is not actually the case.

    • Scath says:

      I’m one of the authors whose books were listed on LendInk, Greg.

      It took me roughly 30 seconds to determine that there was nothing illegal going on, and that my copyrights were NOT being infringed.

      If you’re an author, you have your ebooks listed on Amazon and set to receive a 70% royalty per sale, then you’ve agreed to allow lending of your books.

      Each customer who purchases a copy is granted the right to loan that copy one time for 14 days to a fellow Kindle owner.

      Lendink was simply a place for those Kindle (and other ebook device) owners to meet each other.

      Lendink was using Amazon affiliate links…if you don’t know about Amazon’s affiliate program, I suggest you read up on it.

    • Robert says:

      LendInk did NOT host books. LendInk did NOT loan out any books. All lending was through Amazon. Who authorized the lending? The author of the book did, when publishing with Amazon. If you checked the checkbox, you authorized your book to be loaned. Under the terms you agreed to, the book may be loaned one time for a 14-day period.

      All that LendInk did was to put people who had a book to lend in contact with people who wanted to borrow it. Again, all lending was through Amazon, in accordance with the terms the author agreed to with Amazon. No honest, informed person could call this piracy.

  4. S Palmer says:

    Some screens of the tweets from Helen White and Miranda Stork.

  5. Silver Fang says:

    I posted a link to this page on my Tumblr and Twitter. Hopefully, people will flame these greedy bastards off the Net.

  6. Hiya, group. I’m the author of the ‘Congratulations: You Killed LendInk…” post. Shortly after I wrote it I was also inspired (by the breathtaking idiocy of some authors’ paranoia about control over their work) to shoot a tongue-in-cheek YouTube video. For example, on FB one author said that regardless of Ammy T&C’s, any site that wants to list affiliate links to any of her books should have to get her permission first. If you want to see the video inspired by this author and her fellow oxygen thieves, go to YouTube and enter AprilLHamilton in the search bar – you’ll find it.

    It saddens and sickens me to see that even after PLENTY of knowledgeable, trustworthy sources have made it clear LendInk was doing nothing wrong, the raging dunderheads continue to claim it was violating copyright, stealing intellectual property, or just making them uncomfortable. Worse yet, not content with having killed a legitimate business with their mob tactics, they are now making personal threats against the site’s owner and his family members. I think I may have to do an update post.

    Regarding the boycott list…
    I’ve seen elsewhere that the few authors who came forward to admit they were wrong and publicly apologize are being excoriated no less vigorously than the willfully ignorant dolts have done to LendInk. I think this is wrong. It’s a brave thing to make a public admission of guilt, and I, as well as every person reading this has made serious mistakes at some point in life that caused significant harm to one or more others. Once the damage is done, what more can one do but apologize and make amends by doing so publicly? I’d like to suggest that any author who’s been added to the boycott list be removed if he/she makes a public admission of wrongdoing in the same locations where he/she previously falsely accused LendInk, along with an apology. Just my .02.

    • A.B. Dada says:

      April: Thanks for visiting!

      I am more than happy to post a link and a screen cap of their apology. I am a very forgiving guy.

      The problem is, many of these people were ready to resort to using the law to attack a website. Because I am an anti-state type of guy, it is part of my interest to record historical archives of people who are obviously nuts about going straight to government to solve problems rather than opening a discourse.

      Regardless of one’s view of copyright (I don’t copyright ANY of my writings, and I write a lot!), the first step in a free society is to open discussions with one another rather than run to the lawyers or the cops.

      • JR Tomlin says:

        Your work is copyrighted by the fact that you wrote it. You don’t have to take some action, such as registering the copyright, for the copyright to be in effect. Registering a copyright simply allows larger damages and makes the copyright easier to prove.You may not enforce the copyright but it still exists.

    • S Palmer says:

      While I agree that those who admit they’re wrong deserve some credit I’m not willing to simply let everything slide because of an apology. Some of these people sent out dozens of tweets and Facebook posts yet think that a single apology hidden among 50 inane tweets about kittens and what they had for lunch suddenly is all they need to do to make up for what they’ve done.

      If you spent hours wrongly accusing someone of something you don’t spend seconds on an apology and call it the best you can do. If these authors were trying to repair the reputation they played a part in destroying as vigorously as they worked to damage it then I would be much more forgiving.

      • A.B. Dada says:

        I concur.

        I see it on Facebook every day — people just reposting the same crap that Snopes disproved YEARS ago. All it takes is a quick Google search, and if you can’t get to the root source of a problem, then wait a bit before going insane.

        Hell, I’ve made this mistake myself, but I always post a retraction and an explanation and try to do good for the person I’ve hurt.

        There is NO excuse for authors to not do some reading, a little due diligence. At the very least, they should read their contracts that they signed.

        • JR Tomlin says:

          I will accept a REAL apology.

          The problem is that it has to be a real one and not one that says “I’m sorry but he didn’t explain well enough.” Or “I’m sorry but if he wasn’t doing anything wrong why hasn’t he brought his site back online.” Or “I’m sorry but everyone is picking on me now.”

          A real apology published in such a way that it is clearly visible really will satisfy me, until then none of these people can expect me to follow them on twitter or re-tweet or share blog posts, and certainly not buy their books.

  7. VN Dare says:

    Hey, guys.

    I just wanted to chime in here as one of the authors who didn’t jump on the pirate bandwagon against LendInk, and who actually came out in their defense.

    While I can’t say that I agree completely with the action being taken here, I DO understand your anger. A little homework would have done wonders to fix this. Just understanding the Amazon Lending policy (which I posted on multiple threads in support of LendInk) would have kept a lot of this from happening.

    Alas, it did not happen that way. As one of the authors whose books were on the LendInk site (well, two at least, I was hoping for more to show up), it saddens me that some of us allowed our fear to get in the way of our understanding.

    That being said, some of us lobbied in LendInk’s favor. And while the anger surrounding what happened is completely understandable and well deserved, I’m hoping that a better response can be made going forward.

    Sometimes, authors behave badly. Sometimes, we don’t all think when we should. Or we don’t all do our homework on our own books (or our publishers don’t) or actually check out the sites we’re labeling as pirates. Which is what leads to things like this happening.

    But not all of us are on that bandwagon. And I think you might get some more support if you went a more positive direction with the folks who did support you. I’m sure you can find them in threads similar to the ones you posted.

    Just like you want a little support for what you’re doing (by selling t-shirts), most indie authors just want a little support for what we do, too. Some of us stood up for LendInk because we recognized that it was mutually beneficial. Please remember that. Not all indie authors are assholes. Nor are we saints/angels.

    VN Dare
    Indie erotica author.

    • A.B. Dada says:


      Thanks for visiting and taking the time to comment.

      I’m an asshole. That’s my gig here and everywhere online. People expect it of me, and it’s part of how I choose to live my life.

      As I’ve said for over 27 years of writing publicly (back in the BBS days, 1985), 90% of the people who meet me hate me, but the 10% who don’t absolutely love me.

      • Scath says:

        I’m getting the impression from a few things I’ve read that some are mistaking you for Dale Porter.

        Unless I’m mistaken that you and he are two separate people? ;)

      • J Anne Mauck says:

        >As I’ve said for over 27 years of writing publicly (back in the BBS days, 1985), 90% of the people who meet me hate me, but the 10% who don’t absolutely love me.

        I can see how that’s true. I’m utterly fascinated by your whole blog.

        • A.B. Dada says:

          Much obliged for the compliment. I normally write under noms de plume, as others do — this is my real name, so it’s just a repository of thought based solely on questions I’m asked by random others.

  8. Mr. Dada,

    I hope this correspondence finds you well.
    My name is Stephen L. Wilson. Recently I started a group committed to fight any misrepresentation or unlawful distribution of our work online. I started this group because one of my online author friends was very upset when she realized that her sales had dropped significantly, and upon researching the matter further, she found out that thousands of copies of her eBooks were being freely (and illegally) distributed by a group of strangers who had no apparent respect for her effort. Not being one to side with bullies, I immediately began work to bring together a group of authors, publishers and supporters with the same sentiment. Popularity became a movement, and a movement brought the illegal, smarmy TUEBL to its knees. Then someone mentioned LendInk.
    I checked it out, and immediately posted in my group that they should put their pitchforks down, that we had actual criminals to pursue. Not that whatever LendInk was doing was the perfect model for authors, in my opinion, but at any rate, Amazon and B&N apparently had no problems with the arrangement. I made it clear that I did not have a dog in this fight and that it would be wise to stick to the blatantly criminal aspect of the industry, instead. I have no control over the actions of others, and from what I understand, a revolution was born, regardless of my words. Your blog, and the strong stance you will build from it, was part of what I did not want to be involved with. Right, wrong, or indifferent, I found nothing to warrant LendInk illegal, and stated as much in my group. I am a former professional documents specialist, and if I didn’t perform accurate due diligence, the company I worked for would have lost thousands at a time. I don’t believe in guesswork regarding matters such as these, and I was not about to abandon that platform and run off to perform a fool’s errand.
    I understand your frustration. I understand your position. I understand your stance and fight. I would like to appeal to your good senses and ask that you very carefully consider linking alliances with TUEBL. My group is watching their group very carefully. Since international laws are only so helpful, it is clear to us that we have to take this fight into our own hands, and we have. I take the position that if TUEBL does not change their model to respectfully consider the hard work and efforts of the small fish, then we will continue to fight as a school of piranhas. Maybe the market and industry needs an overhaul, but not at the hands of the politics of groups such as TUEBL. Feel free to visit my blog, which I have put together as an informational journal designed to share our battle each day as it happened.
    Please feel free to contact me with any questions, comments, concerns or suggestions you may have. Again, I feel that a distribution model can be perfected, and it can take into account several ideologies surrounding the issue. I will not tolerate, however, the condescending and disrespectful bullying of an unaffiliated group, with no interest of the authors in mind, to shape the future of my craft. At this point in time, I do not, nor have I ever, considered LendInk to be be of that ilk. Thank you for your time.

    • A.B. Dada says:

      I approved your comment because I do believe in free speech on my property, even though I am not required to.

      I think you’re wasting your time fighting piracy when you could be writing more, or planning nation-wide book tours to meet your fans.

      I encourage the “piracy” of my creative content. I want people to pirate me. I want people to take the work I’ve performed and delete my name from it and sell it as their own.

      I believe copyright is the biggest limitation on a writer — why defend your work when you can let your fans go and promote it for you for free?

      • Cassraole says:

        How on earth do you make enough money for a living?

        • A.B. Dada says:

          Because I’m in high demand and people pay me the big bucks.

          You’re getting me for free here, be thankful.

        • AshenTech says:

          Cassraole: I have a few friends who are authors, one thing even the very successful ones need to do th keep profits up is to keep producing more works, many authors such as the ones Stephen L. Wilson talks about feel they should make a perpetual and consistent stream of money off of all works they create.

          the thing is, most long standing successful authors know thats not how it works, they make far more off new works then old, and by producing new works they create more demand for older works.

          as Baen (major publisher) learned with their free libery and drm free ebooks(and giving away ebooks with physical books on cd), just because your stuffs out there free dosnt mean your loosing money or sales, infact, the study they ddi (published) showed they MADE MONEY off it.

          i know, that sounds illogical from a triditional business point of view, but, heres the thing, most readers find new works via word of mouth and people giving or lending them books, and many times, people will buy a book somebody lent them along with buying the rest of the series OR other works by the same author.

          i know it sounds crazy, but, it works, this also has been shown to work for music and tv shows/movies, even the RIAA has leaked studies they did that showed online “piracy” isnt really a problem, most sharing is still done friend to friend rather then online…..

          those who cry about “piracy”(copyright infringement) killing their business, are doing something wrong…

  9. Prue Batten says:

    I would just like to say in my defence that the quote pasted above tried to explain what it was like to be listed as a ‘lend’ title with no knowledge of that happening and that it could potentially cause a drop in my income.

    I did not ask for my title to be removed, nor have I anywhere asked for either Lendink or LendInk to be closed down.

    I have suggested in private conversations with others that it is up to readers and authors to make their own decisions about such a system. I even quoted Neil Gaiman who supports piracy/lending as being a boon for writers.

    So whilst it might be hard for you not to target all indie writers with the same label, I feel I am being targeted a little unfairly. You ask above, that writers who feel they are being targeted comment here, and that is what i am doing. I am defending my name and my brand, as indeed you are doing with your own name and your own brand.

    Thank you for the chance to comment.

    • A.B. Dada says:

      I will edit the part above with your response, thanks.

      • Prue Batten says:

        Thank you so much for your understanding and I wish the best in the future.


        • Break says:

          Prue: You do realize that YOU are in control of allowing lending on your books on Amazon.

          If you accept the 70% royalty rate, then you MUST allow lending. Lending, as defined by Amazon, is the ability to send an ebook I bought that has lending enabled, to one person, one time, for 14 days. They do not allow me to lend the book again, unless I buy another copy.

          By accepting the 70% royalty rate, you accept those terms and conditions. If I buy your book, and lend it as described by amazon, I am not taking money from you or causing a drop in your income. That is 100% within my rights when buying an Amazon ebook with lending enabled to do.

          If you do not want to accept such policies 9which is within your right to do), you can choose to accept the 35% royalty rate instead. THAT, my friend, would cause a bigger drop in income.

          Hope this makes sense.

          • Prue Batten says:

            I understand what you say and knew the facts but if you go to http://www.mesmered.wordpress.com, you will see the post I wrote on ‘Never a borrower or a lender be…’ where I suggested all authors AND readers should make up their own minds on the issue. I came down myself to side with Neil Gaiman’s comment on lending/piracy and the value it can have to authors generally. It was a fair blog post on both sides I think. But as my closing line said, ‘you are the readers, you be the judge.’

          • Buddy Elf says:

            Prue: That’s fine if that is your viewpoint, but when you use phrases like “loophole” and sites “offering books”, you are mischaracterizing the function of these websites, which is EXACTLY what caused lendInk to be taken down. You seem to equate such sites with piracy, and even if you agree that piracy can be helpful for authors it’s still blatantly lying about what these websites are. Like I said, those lies are exactly why someone’s website was shut down.

          • Buddy Elf says:

            Prue: PLUS, your original quote, the one posted above in the archive, is a complete lie.

            “Every time you ‘lend’ this book, you are depriving me of income.”

            No, I am not. I am exercising the right I received when I bought your ebook to lend it to 1 person, 1 time, for a maximum of 14 days. That is my right. Like Break explained above, you DID NOT HAVE TO agree to this lending policy. You chose to enable lending when you published on Amazon with a 70% royalty rate, but then you claim people are depriving you of income because they are utilizing a feature that you agreed to?

            THAT is why you are featured on this website.

    • Al Norman says:

      Targeted unfairly? If your book was listed for lending, it was YOU who offered the option to lend it via your contract with Amazon. Offering lending is a requirement if you want a 70% royalty, so if you don’t want people lending your book, then drop down to the 35% royalty and uncheck lending. I’ll go ahead and make the safe assumption you will NOT do that since, as you implied, the income is important. Just go ahead and admit you made an ignorant statement that no matter the defense is still an ignorant statement.

      You have zero right in your contract with Amazon for it to be revealed who is lending your work via the means you agreed.

      So either you didn’t read your contract (your fault only), or you were ignorant of your contract (your fault only).

  10. Rebecca says:

    Rebecca Treadway, who said: “Everyone who has had their book illegally listed on this website needs to put in a call or letter to the local chapter of the FBI in your city or state.”

    That would be me, and I sent A.B. a more detailed PM since some author friends who did not partake in the FB LendInk board don’t wish to get involved. I don’t/didn’t have any books on the LendInk site. And that above statement, I will not apologize for. If I did have a book listed on that site, I wouldn’t send him cease/desists on FB – I’d download all of his webpage – research it, make sure it’s illegal – and if it was THEN I would report him. That is what I was telling people. Take it up with the proper authorities, not a FB page.

    There was a writer on Twitter however, who accused a friend of being the “pirate” when her Hootsuite auto-tweeted and her icon showed up on LendInk’s main website – that’s how I originally found out about it. I didn’t get the chance to download and read the entire LendInk site – as at the time this was going down (about midnight PST) I was simultaneously talking to some friends who had their books on that site without their knowledge and was asking them about it, also reading up on copyright laws and actions to take if you feel your work has been pirated or stolen. And yes, I’m the kind of asshole who would go after someone if they did pirate my book, I don’t write for a hobby and I don’t have an 8-5 weekly “back up” job, that would be my sole source of income.

    I didn’t email the man, I didn’t report the man. There *was* one friend – like I said to A.B, who tried clicking on his book, and he wasn’t directed to Amazon, B&N or Smashwords but to an unfamiliar site that offered an immediate download of his book. Maybe the site was hacked, I don’t know – LendInk on Twitter wasn’t updated since January, there wasn’t any response to the accusations on the FB Page – and that pretty much can make anybody suspicious when there isn’t a response. Honestly -imo – if the site owner had put “temporary offline due to illness” or bothered responding to anything a week or so ago – this situation probably wouldn’t have happened. And I don’t mean just for that night, either. Apparently people were complaining on that page before the site was taken down and before this whole thing went viral. I know the man is a disabled vet – but I know disabled Vietnam vets – my older cousin is a disabled Vietnam Vet- and he nor his friends would use their disability nor working elsewhere full time as a reason not to update a business site, if they had one – and at the risk of being a bigger asshole on here, I don’t kindly to being indirectly showcased as someone picking on a disabled Vet. What a lot of the writers did was stupid, yes – but I would prefer to think a lot of them would’ve went “Oh.” if the site owner had taken two minutes from his busy life to post on Twitter or FB that he would be temporarily offline due to illness or simply just being too busy.
    Some folks on my FB list have gone on to say how unprofessional these writers are being – but from someone who has managed to neglect their blog for quite some time and had to take down my business site because I’m too busy with another job to bother with it at the moment – it doesn’t take much effort to put a notice up and keep your customers or complainers informed. Period. That’s all I have to say about it.


    • albieg says:

      You still seem unable to realise that the mob mentality is fueled by self-righteous, uninformed tweets such as yours. Technically you may have done nothing wrong, but that tweet of yours, completely undue in this case, could have convinced some stupid assholes they were in the right. Instead of researching you reinforced the perception of something fishy, which wasn’t the case. This is morally and intellectually bankrupt.

      By being so unapologetic you show your utter failure in understanding you were part of this lynching mob. Moreover Dale’s failure to answer quickly cannot excuse such acts: he’s not the one who fueled the hatred or damaged a legitimate business. Trying to shift the blame won’t help you look any better.

    • Elf says:

      By saying “Everyone who has had their book illegally listed ….” you implied that some of the listings were illegal. They were not.

      Would you think it’s reasonable to say, “everyone who has had their groceries stolen by checkout baggers at this store should call the police,” if NOBODY has had their groceries stolen?

      Do you think it’s reasonable for picketers to shut down a store because of false accusations of theft, based on their baggage polices, which involve recycling bags issued at other stores?

      Bonus question: do you really think none of the picketers would be liable for charges of defamation and libel?

      • A.B. Dada says:

        I don’t believe in government, so I would really hate to see Dale bring up any sort of legal charges against these ninnies.

        I prefer public shaming over government force 100% of the time.

        • Cassraole says:

          You, my friend, are awesome. I will now proceed to see if I can subscribe to your blog. Doubtless, you’ve heard of the Oatmeal – Charles Carreon fiasco, involving another brainless idiot pursuing non-existent rights.

          Matthew Inman refused to pay the claim and held a charity donation instead. Considering how popular this page is, you could do the same thing and donate the amount to Lendink, don’t you think?

    • JR Tomlin says:

      So he was attacked with lies but it was all HIS fault.

  11. Fred says:

    Most indie author books go free at regular intervals. I think it’s a requirement of the KDP program. If there is even the remotest possibility that you might want to read one of the idiot authors books, though I can’t imagine why, then it might be an idea to add it to a wishlist until it drops to free and then download it.

    Of course if once you read it you happened to find it to be rubbish then you would be perfectly within your rights to post a one star review on Amazon of any book, or author, that you felt deserved it.

    • KDP Select does not *require* you to make your book available for free.

      KDP Select *allows* you to list your book for free for 5 days in each 90-day period you are part of KDP Select.

      • A.B. Dada says:

        I believe that the KDP program (not sure if it’s “select” or not as I don’t sell on Amazon) requires you to offer your book for lending if you use the 70% pay-out commission.

        I could be wrong.

        • Break says:

          Going free & lending are two completely different concepts.

          the original comment was discussing when authors set their books for free (though he was mistaken about it required, it’s just an opportunity) and this is done through the KDP Select program.

          Publishing through KDP, one can opt into Select if they like….

          lending, has nothing to do with select…. lending is based on the royalty rate chosen 70%.

          Hope that cleared it up…. thanks for what you’re doing here.

        • Break says:

          Also…. I forgot to add… the Kindle Lending Library is a 3rd separate thing… by being in KDP Select, you can opt into the Kindle Lending Library where people can borrow your book… you do get paid for these (anywhere from $1.90/borrow-$2.75/borrow in the past few months)… they can borrow 1 book per month if they have a Prime membership… they cant borrow another book until they return a book they already borrowed.

          Hope that helps.

        • Yes, you are correct, if you choose the 70% royalty option, you automatically agree to be enrolled in the Kindle Lending Library.

          But KDP Select is different. KDP Select allows you to list your book for $0.00 for up to 5 days in each 90-day period you are part of it. They also pay you for each “borrow” you get. What does Amazon get in return? Exclusivity. You agree to sell your eBook Exclusively through Amazon for the 90 days you are enrolled.

          KDP Select is an optional program.

          • JR Tomlin says:

            No, that is not correct. You are not automatically in the KLL. The KLL is part of the Select program and only if you are part of Select is your book in the KLL. Those are loans made to members of Amazon’s “Prime” program and the loan is made by Amazon, not by a buyer.

            The one time loan made by a buyer is completely different. If you opt for the 70% royalty then you can not opt out of the load as one person here has posted. Either you agree to a one time load by all purchasers or you accept a 35% royalty rate.

            As you say, Select is optional as is KLL.

  12. albieg says:


    You may also want to check the above link (a Google Cache copy of a now deleted post by Shawn Lamb). It gives precious insight:

    Well, my previous posts on the use of DRM came in very handy last week when I was made aware of a pirate site illegally displaying all my e-books, Kindle and Nook, for unlimited borrowing. This offending site claimed to be linked to Amazon and Barnes & Noble. Not! Armed with Twitter, FB, and any online social media site available to me, I shot the word out and it went viral.

    You can read the rest of the rant by yourself. In case Google Cache gets deleted I saved a copy for future reference.

    • A.B. Dada says:

      You can’t fight piracy anymore. It’s not even worth it.

      I am a writer — I’ve written for over 25 years (1987 is when I first published online).

      Never once in my life have I put a copyright statement on anything I write. Never once.

      I openly allow EVERYONE in the world to take what I write, erase my name from it, put their own name on it, and give it away, sell it, burn it — without any attribution to me.

      Guess what? I make more money writing than most writers who attempt to defend their work through copyright.

      That’s because I’m a great writer. Bad writers rely on copyright, good writers love piracy because it means people are taking their own time to promote the topic that the original writer wants to promote.

      Piracy = free marketing.

      • albieg says:

        I completely agree with you, even on piracy. That said, I invite you to follow the url and read the blog entry I partially quoted because Shawn Lamb deserves to be on the top of your list.

  13. Thanks for the list of names.

  14. Claire Ryan says:

    For what it’s worth…



    Got some other screenshots of Helen White and Miranda Stork. There’s still stuff in the cache if you know how to look.

  15. Claire Ryan says:

    For what it’s worth…



    There’s more in the Google cache if you know where to look. I have a few other screenshots.

  16. Jenny Woodall says:

    As an author based here in the UK where the lending of ebooks is not available through Amazon.co.uk I would like to say in my defence that I assumed the same was the case on Amazon. com, which is why I asked for my books to be removed from lendink.com. I have subsequently learnt from my American publisher that Amazon.com does allow ebook lending and apologise for my error.

    I would respectfully point out that UK copyright law differs to that of US copyright law. While it might be hard for you to understand, all I was doing was protecting my work.

    Thank you for allowing me to comment

    • Elf says:

      Copyright law in UK vs US is irrelevant here. Lendink was a social networking and referral site, not a get-ebooks-here site. It worked with Amazon and B&N’s lending programs; it didn’t lend any books on its own. It included links to unlendable books, which could be bought.

      Asking for your books to be removed from a referral site, without bothering to find out what it actually *did*, was a stupid move. You were “protecting” your work from *customers*, not pirates.

      • A.B. Dada says:

        Copyright law is irrelevant in every way. Only a schmuck worries about piracy.

        Here’s why:

        1. I have more money than you do,
        2. I have addresses in countries with no copyright laws,
        3. I have servers in those countries with no copyright laws,
        4. If I wanted to pirate your crappy novel, I could do so and you could never beat me in court because I could outlast you financially.

        A good writer is happy to see their works pirated because it means that people like it enough to spend the time to market it at no cost to the author. A great writer knows that eventually the piracy will bring attention to their work, and it will help to sell future works.

        • Elf says:

          I don’t agree that piracy is always a boon to authors, but I do agree that it’s not the great demon that’s destroying author livelihoods. And I very much believe that we need a legitimate, simple way for ebook lending to be as easy and useful as paper book lending.

          And that authors who believe copyright means “nobody can do anything with my writing that I don’t approve of in advance” are delusional fools.

          • A.B. Dada says:

            I do believe there is a future for “copyright”, I just think it will occur without any legal structure of government enforcing it.

            The best way to provide for “protection” of a content creators work is for competitive and private organizations to host the original creation of others that they themselves submit (and pay to host). Then, these organizations can poll the Internet looking for copies (or even lengthy snippets) and inform the author if the works are out there. This allows the original creator to say “hey, this person ganked my creation, be careful!”

            Google Image Search already does this for images. Eventually, we’ll have private archive companies that will do it for books.

            Readers can easily decide if they want to “take” content or compensate the author.

            In my experience, giving away my digital content for free is much more financially beneficial than attempting to protect it behind laws.

  17. Esmeralda says:

    The whole kerfuffle has been a fascinating example of mob mentality on the intertubes. Like sharks in a feeding frenzy, or lemmings swarming over a cliff, when you get too many excitable and small-brained creatures together, bad things can happen.

  18. Tracey Bloomfield says:

    Wow. I am amazed at the rabid stupidity these authors have demonstrated. Did they really allow their stuff to be posted on Amazon without reading their contracts? My husband is an author and he just shook his head at this. He likened it to authors going after their local library. We have both found a book at the library that spurred us to go out and buy a whole series therefore, causing the author to make more money. Predicated, of course, on the fact that they were actually smart enough to get a contract that allows them to make money. If you don’t know what goes on with e-books people then DON’T get into the business.

    I hope Dale gets his site up and running again soon. Perhaps he should put in large block letters an explanation, for those whose comprehension levels seem to be lacking, that they should read their contracts with Amazon and B&N before choking on their feet.

  19. Too many self pubbed authors with absolutely no business experience (or common sense) = Bad for all of us…

    Lack of business savy or common sense aside, I have to wonder just what sorts of books these people write, if they cannot read and comprehend a simple contract? Perhaps they should invest in a dictionary for the bigger more complex words like affiliate?

    As for the lawsuit several of them mentioned? Yeah, I’d say Lendlink just might have one on their hands. AGAINST each and every one of the authors who defamed the site and maliciously shut it down!

    It’s times like these I wish stupidity was illegal.

    I personally am keeping a list of each of everyone of these authors and their books. I will not purchase them, I will not support them in anyway.

    To the writers in this mob, you should all be ashamed! Not only have you managed to remove a FREE outlet for advertising and selling our work, I’m certain you have put off many others who might chose to do the same thing, all while making us all look like DAMN FOOLS!

    • A.B. Dada says:

      This is why I am trying to put up an archive — it’s not just the stupidity of people, it’s that so many of them wanted to use legal methods to harm another individual.

      Thanks for you comment.

      • …But this is the problem when followers try to become leaders. They have no understanding of the process and lack the skills, or mindset to actually figure it out. And without a babysitter, they revert, and follow the first dimwitted SOB, who pulls the people’s court home game out of his ass, and tells them what they should do.

        The thing that amuses me most is the way most of these jack-asses have just deleted the tweets or comments that make them look like morons and moved on. Yeah, that makes it all better. And the ones who haven’t seem to be playing the victim?

        ’I’m sick…I’m Ill…I’ve just had surgery‘. Boo Hoo…

        Of course my fave is the one who says she’s done writing, her books are getting bad reviews, she’s been “brought down.”

        LOL Really? Tell me? How’s that feel???

        It’s confounding how not one of them seem to possess the veracity or maturity or at the very least BALLS to issue an apology for their wrongdoing. And even more baffling how some are still trying to justify their acts. And just plain mystifying how a few still just don’t get it, and are defending what they did!

        The issue is still very active at the KDP forum. Lots of he said, she said and post deleting going on. It would be amusing if it weren’t so damn sad for self pubbers as a whole.

        I have no pity for any of them.

  20. AF says:

    So much has already been said by people far more articulate than I can ever be.
    Still, it really amazes me the sheer stupidity of so many of these “authors”!

    It’s all fun and games when it’s your mob beating up some guy. But when the whole thing turns against you, then suddenly all sorts of moral considerations and rights are supposedly due, right?

    You know what? Regular, normal people are, by now, so sick and tired of getting hit by the “law” hammer, the regulations are so distorted that nowadays virtually anyone can be considered a pirate in a way or other, that it’s only normal that when people listen to stupid statements like “but I don’t get money when people lend my books!” , they get really pissed off and start to take notice. You really have been taking this things too far, and now you added insult to injury with this stupid persecution. Don’t be surprised if suddenly a lot of people also form a mob to go after you. It’s the Internet.

    Above all, even worst than the stupidity displayed regarding contracts and lending and business stuff… how can you be so thick as to expect to do such thing on the Internet, and not get a lot of people mad at you?

    You guys think you got a pretty tight and big group to band together and “defend” your interests? Well guess what: the other millions of customers/readers/users also do. And it’s BIGGER than yours!

  21. Elf says:

    To avoid more idiot comments about how you are “SUPPORTING PIRACY!!!,” you might add a brief explanation of Lendink’s purpose at the top of this post, mentioning that Lendink didn’t *lend* anything; it helped ebook owners find ebook borrowers, and vice versa, and then they’d go to Amazon or B&N to do the lending itself–in accordance with the terms the authors had agreed to.

    • A.B. Dada says:

      Excellent idea, but don’t you think it’s way more fun to see imbeciles come here and post insanities?

      • Elf says:

        Ah, well, if you’re *enjoying* the stupid, that’s different.

        Thank you for putting this up; I’m very happy to have a list of authors I want to avoid, because if they’re too stupid to read a FAQ or site terms, I don’t want to know how they might react to a negative review. And there’s no shortage of reading material by authors who can tell the difference between “a pirate distribution site” and “a social networking site with referral links.”

        • A.B. Dada says:

          I purposely put most of my writings on torrent sites under a false name. It’s reaped me tens of thousands of dollars in new income from new fans who discovered me by downloading my works and liking them enough to go out and buy a real copy.

          On top of that, MOST people who download my works from a torrent site also continue to “seed” the torrent to others, which means they’re taking the time and spending the electricity to market my works for me at no charge to me.

          Piracy is a godsend to small authors, musicians and other creative artists.

  22. Lori says:

    I’m a new indie author, so when I heard about Lendink I went to check it out. My book wasn’t listed on the site, but I was amazed at how many that were. Still, it didn’t take rocket science (and a wonderful explanation by Amanda Brice on our indie loop) to figure out what they were doing was all legal and above board. I actually thought it was a brilliant idea and a great way to help curb the illegal piracy of ebooks (which I will never condone). I firmly believe most people would like to get books legally this way if they knew the option was available. In fact, I wish there were more sites like Lendink and Lendle. One thing authors need to realize is that loaning this way (one person to one person) is even better than library loans. Libraries (at least the ones in my area) purchase an ebook and can loan it out to 65 people before they have to buy a new copy. Since ebooks are virtually forever, to be fair and compensate the authors, they treat them like paperbacks, which have a loan life of about 60 or so before they start falling apart. Frankly, I’d rather have my book bought and shared by 2 people the Lendink way, than bought by a library and shared by 65 people. Don’t get me wrong. I love the library and want my books available there too. But the way I look at it, authors stand to make more money the Lendink way, plus get discovered by new readers along the way, so I’m all for it. I hope Lendink finds a way to come back. It’s something authors should promote and encourage, not fear.

  23. Aaron Speca says:

    I’m a brand new author as well (although not indie, at least not yet). I looked into LendInk’s FAQ and examined how they worked and as far as I could tell, they were doing everything above-board. I will be posting about this on my own blog soon.

  24. emaginette says:

    So did you do this for the views, hatred or the t-shirts?

    Remember karma has a way of coming back on people tenfold. I hope I’m not there to see it. I don’t have a stomach for this kind of thing.

    Saddest thing I’ve ever come across.

    • A.B. Dada says:

      See, I’m an asshole. I warn people about it.

      The thing is, assholery is what makes me wealthy and able to sex beautiful and young models on the beaches of Europe and South America. Being nice surely doesn’t do that — I’d end up with some bloated feminist if I went that route.

      So why do I do this? Because these so-called authors are numbskulls and it gives me a strong weapon against people who immediately run to government for help.

      I’m here to dictate that government is NOT here to help people and that we should do things peacefully amongst ourselves.

      The benefit is that any angry responses against me only serves my purposes: all PR is good PR for the asshole, and it just puts more coin in my pocket and prettier girls in my beds.

  25. mz83 says:

    The fact that authors were stupid enough to team up and take down a perfectly legal site that generated them additional income would be funny if it wasn’t for the fact that they also destroyed something that an innocent person had invested a lof of money and work into to build.

  26. chazb says:

    I’d gladly tell you what my lawyer said, but I’m sure you don’t want to hear it.

    Let me state for the record: I’m an Indie. I write under a pseudonym.

    When I first published, I didn’t have Amazon KDP as an option. Tell me why my Amazon version was taken, and not the other version.

    I did not join select. I did not choose 70%. I enabled digital rights management. And it may interest you to know that my book was 25 years in the making. That’s right. A whole quarter century was spent from the time it was started in 1981 through the time I finished it in 2006.

    You’ve claimed that piracy actually “helps” the little guy. Calling Microsoft a “little guy” is a stretch, but I’m using them as an example. How many piracy cases have then been involve in? How many sites have been shut down because of Microsoft? They’ve taken action against many.

    I am pleased that you do well enough to avoid laying claim on your works. A lot of us do not do that well.

    If lendink.com had purchased a copy of my book, I’d say Great. Go ahead, share! But I have no evidence that they purchased anything. If they’re a library, I would say Fantastic. I have nothing against libraries. But even libraries need donations of books and/or funding for more books.

    I would gladly have given permission, IF THEY HAD ASKED. But did they? No. I could have been reached through Amazon, or Facebook, or Twitter.

    Perhaps I over-react. Did I shut them down? Did I make a public statement against them? No. I just went directly to them. I also consulted an attorney before I did.

    If they had been promoting for me, I would not have said a thing. But I had no indication that they were doing that. All I could tell is that they were giving away my work.

    “You didn’t write that. Somebody else wrote that.” — Sound familiar?

    • A.B. Dada says:

      1. LendInk never HAD your book to give away — all they did was give people a way to share email addresses.

      2. If people were able to share your book, they were only able to do so through Amazon or BN’s lending system.

      3. If you didn’t want people to be able to do that, and they were able to, your beef is with Amazon or BN who would facilitate the lending.

      If you didn’t publicly attack them, good. You have my support for contacting them directly.

      If you DID publicly attack them, then fuck you and fuck your shyster lawyer. You’d be a piece of trash in my book, and I would be happy to make sure that others learned what a piece of trash you could have been for battling an innocent website instead of going after Amazon or BN.

      I’m glad you went through direct means, though — so you are welcome here anytime.

    • chazb says:

      Oh, yeah. If you want to contact to berate me, that’s your right. I do not begrudge you that right. However, please note that insulting, pathetic banter and name calling is likely to get you blocked rather than answered.

      • Davio says:

        So chazb, explain to us how LendInk violated your right ? They didn’t invent the lending system and didn’t share copies of your book ?

        You used the word “perhaps” so I am guessing you think you didn’t do anything wrong here ?

    • Break says:

      Wow…chazb: You say “But I have no evidence that they purchased anything.”

      You have no evidence that LendInk lended your book to anyone.

      They were promoting for you!

      You spent 25 years on a book, but you couldn’t take 10 minutes to read the FAQ on the Lend Ink website that explained the process. That, if your book did not have lending enabled, it was not able to be loaned at all (since all loans were facilitated through Amazon or B&N).

      If a book was not lending enabled, it was simply a link to Amazon for people to buy your book! (Promoting for you).

      Yet you and countless other people who couldn’t take the time to learn about the site (10 minutes), went and lawyered up, and helped to cause the flood of e-mails to the hosting company that got the website shut down.

      The fact that you are still on here spreading lies, while there is plenty of information on the internet about the legality of LendInk’s policies, shows that you are ignorant. No wonder it took you 25 years to write a book. No wonder your book doesn’t sell, if this is how you treat your fans and the opportunities for sites like LendInk to promote your work.

      • chazb says:

        “Lawyered up.” Funny term. I asked a question of my lawyer. He answered. And his answer indicated that Lendink was in error.

        By the time I had my 2 cents in at the site, it was only moments from being taken down. So if you claim I caused it, you’ve been smoking something.

        BTW: I DID click my link on the site. It gave me an error.

        You say I’m “Spreading lies.” I’ve done nothing but tell the truth. If you’re claiming that the truth is a lie, you’ve been reading 1984.

        I suspect my book isn’t a best seller because it’s not really what people are wanting. I’m working on others. Of course, you do not know my nom de plume, because I prefer that the work stand on its own. You’ll also note I do not mention the title. I believe this is the wrong forum for that.

        I do have some fans out there. I’m no Stephen King, and I know that. I wonder how Stephen King would respond to Lendink.

        And remember, I made no public comments about it. I simply requested that they remove my title from their so-called lending-library. Nor on my own blog. Why? Because I believed that it was between that website and me.

        If I had asked Lendink to promote for me, I would have no objection. Or if they had contacted me, the same reasoning. Is it too much to ask for a simple, “Please allow our site to promote your book”? I was raised to be polite, thoughtful and considerate. Businesses seldom practice that anymore. What they’re after is the Almighty Dollar. Amazon said that they had no connection with Lendink. Considering how my book has sold, I’m inclined to believe that.

        I will explain my beliefs. I will not apologize for them. In the future, if I determine that I was in error, I will adjust my beliefs. Based on what I knew and what I saw plus a legal opinion, I believe I made the correct decision. You may fault me for that. The decision seemed correct at that time. It still does. If that changes, or I find I am in error, I will admit it. Only then will an apology occur.

        Yes, It’s sad that Lendink got shut down. They could have simply explained to those who were getting added to their site. It would have been much easier for all.

        Opt-in? Opt-out? Or just let it sit? I could not do the latter.

        You do not agree with my choice. That’s your right. But it is my choice.

        • A.B. Dada says:

          Your shyster lawyer was wrong, you should fire him.

          You’ll discover this to be the case, actually.

          If someone allowed your books to be lent out, it was the host of the files of your books: Amazon or BN.

          You’re really a trip, what a maroon. I’m embarrassed to even call myself a writer because of schmucks like you.

          You have no right to tell LendInk to ask YOU if they want to provide a link to Amazon — their agreement is with Amazon, not with you. That’s who you have to take this up with, instead of your shyster lawyer.

          • chazb says:

            Excuse me. You forgot: Amazon said they had no connection to Lendink. If they do butt said they don’t, they’ve lied.

            I also note with some amusement that you’ve started name calling. I kind of figured you would, I just didn’t know when.

            I doubt that my last minute request to have my book removed from their site was the final straw. It was less than an hour from my request to shut down. I made no threats, I may still have my email which I sent in my “Sent” box.

            You stand up for what you believe. I admire that. We don’t agree. That’s a given. I doubt that we’ll find common ground.

            If you cannot put aside your own prejudices when reviewing a book, you do everyone a disservice. You simply stoop to the level of the fool.

        • Break says:

          They did explain it in their FAQ… you asked your lawyer the wrong question or he gave you the wrong answer.

          You may want to do a Google search to see who all may link to your book. because that is all LendInk did… period.

          If you asked your lawyer “Is LendInk allowed to lend my book/” Then he gave you the right answer, “No, they are not allowed”.

          But, you asked the wrong question, because LendInk didn’t loan or lend any books to anyone, because they never had any books to loan or lend.

          In your original post, you asked why a version was taken. NOTHING WAS TAKEN FROM YOU… Where is the proof that it was? Please, get your lawyer to show all of us where your copyright was violated.

          If you are too fucking ignorant to understand that you are wrong, despite the myriad facts about this site and the legality of it, then God help your fans.

          In the mean time, please provide facts that they violated your copyright…. anyone can link to your blog, they don’t need you or your lawyer’s permission… but, of course, you are too fucking ignorant to understand that concept.

          • Scath says:

            That’s what I was going to say: I don’t think Chaz asked his lawyer the right question, or he presented what Lendink was doing incorrectly to his lawyer.

            Then again, it doesn’t require a lawyer to determine if it was legal or not. Just, you know, reading the FAQs and understanding them. ;)

        • Al Norman says:


          If your book is lendable through Amazon, you agreed to allow your book to be lent in your Amazon contract, of which lending is governed by the Amazon terms of service to the end user (reader). Thus, you have signed an agreement that says you agree to the lending method.

          Those terms of service do not state a restriction on the manner in which two people may connect and lend/borrow your title. If something is not prohibited in a contract or terms of service, it is permitted, and you, by agreeing to said contract, have condoned and given permission for any form of matchmaking for lend/borrow purposes.

          In other words, no one needs to ask your permission to offer your book to lend, since you already gave said permission. No one needs to ask your permission to promote your work using the Amazon system, since you gave that right to Amazon in your contract.

          Authors need to understand that they cannot have their cake and eat it too when allowing an intermediary to sell or promote your work. You lost some control of your work. That is the bottom line. If you dislike this, remove your work from Amazon and any other intermediary where you have entered into a contract.

        • Dave Head says:

          Stephen King has often experimented with giving books away for free. As for LendInk, they don’t own or have a single copy of ANY book. Not one. They are an Amazon Affiliate which means they promote the books and then direct the users to amazon.com.

          The end. From that point on it’s all amazon.com who is selling/lending books, and you signed a contract with them to allow it.

          Dumbass. I wouldn’t have to explain this to you if you had bothered to ASK QUESTIONS from other people first, instead of sending a illegitimate DMCA Takedown demand. (Which carries a $500 penalty by the way… hope you have spare cash.)

    • Andrew says:

      News flash, Chazb. If you signed up for the 35% royalty rate with Amazon, it doesn’t matter if LendInk or Lendle.me or BookLending.com or countless other sites that do the exact same thing list your book. It’s IMPOSSIBLE for the book to be lended out. Completely, utterly impossible.

      But really, let’s talk about the impact of your AMAZING financial acumen. By contributing to bring down LendInk, you’ve successfully halted a community of 15,000 from organically finding your books. Since your book wasn’t available to lend (as many books are not), LendInk was pushing people to Amazon to BUY YOUR BOOK so you would EARN MONEY.

      Hey, perhaps you should go after any bloggers that recommend your book in a post. How dare those blogging jerks try to send people to Amazon to buy your book! You should send your awesome lawyer after them as I’m sure he loves racking up the billing hours with your inane requests.

      The only thing you accomplished through your completely inept understanding of the Web is making your books more obscure. Congratulations! Let me know when you write a book on great marketing practices so I can be sure to do the exact opposite of everything you recommend. I’ll be rich!

      • chazb says:

        Funny. I don’t claim to be a business whiz. If I were, I’d be selling cars.

        • Break says:

          Well, you sure as hell aren’t selling books! Your obvious ignorance is making it very clear why it took 25 years to write a book.

          • chazb says:

            Boy, are you hilarious! You have no idea why it took so long. You take a fact and twist it until it suits your need.

            I began the book as a creative writing project while I was in college. I stored the papers, lost it all in a flood. I often restarted the project, but never really got it into a “running” mode. There were lots of issues that kept me from finishing. Traveling 160 miles a day to work was just one of the issues.

            One day in very late 2005, I started it again. I just kept going. Some days it was just a paragraph or two. Other days it was a page or two. Once, I wrote a whole chapter in one day.

            From start to finish, yes, it was 25 years. When in gear, however, it only took months. Then there was the rewrite, the editing, the rewrite of the editing and the cover design. I tried the traditional method of getting published.. After determining it wasn’t accomplishing anything, I went Indie. And I have had sales. That’s more than I had hoped after my months of submitting manuscripts and query letters.

            I leave you all with this thought: What if neither of us is fully right?

        • Andrew says:

          “I leave you all with this thought: What if neither of us is fully right?”

          Ha! Now that’s hilarious. There’s no gray area in the coding of a website. Binary code; Ones and Zeros; Black and White; Right and Wrong, it works or it doesn’t work.

          LendInk was designed to perform two extremely straight-forward functions.

          1. Connecting Kindle and Nook owners under the structured lending rules laid out by Amazon and Barnes & Noble.
          2. Referring readers to Amazon to purchase books (like your book) that weren’t available under the lending agreement.

          LendInk was NOT designed to give out free copies of books that they have purchased or acquired by any other means. They did not host any book files on the site. They did not offer a download function. They did not link to any hosting sites with illegal links for books.

          These are extremely simple, easy-to-understand facts about how the site was coded. That’s what we are basing our arguments on. We don’t need to interpret the truth and open ourselves to not being “fully right” about LendInk; the facts speak for themselves.

    • Fred says:

      I can see why it took you 25 years to write a book. Intelligence, comprehension, clarity and eloquence aren’t really your strong points are they? Maybe you should consider an alternative career? I know there are still lots of farmyards that need someone to shovel them, you seem to have the ideal skillset for that particular occupation.

      • chazb says:

        Just LOVE to insult, don’t you? Maybe you ought to think before you insult.

        I do record everything. Every insult recorded is used in building a case against people who slander me.

        We’re not talking about coding websites. We are talking about what was apparent piracy. Whether or not you see it as that that is immaterial.

        I state again: Amazon said that they had no connection with Lendink. My clicks on my book gave me an error message. They did not take me to my amazon product.

        I have been civil. I have not used foul language or called you names. Yet you seem intent on trying to bully me into changing my view. It’s not going to work.

        I could retaliate. I could write to your hosting service. I could show them your foul speech and apparent slander. I could insist that you be taken down and threaten legal action if you aren’t removed. But I am not doing that. And do you know why?

        I will be going now. I will no longer comment on this topic. But I will be watching.

        Just remember to watch where you point your finger. If you hold it in front of a snapping turtle’s nose, he’ll bite it off.

        • A.B. Dada says:

          Fuck off and write to my hosting place you little twirp.

          Go ahead, I’m posting my real name. This is me. Want my address?

          Mail your fucking legal bullshit you waste of space.

          Bring it you fucking loser. I’ll point my finger wherever the fuck I want to point it.

          You’re a piece of shit author, a shitty excuse for a human being, and I’ll be happy to be part of the masses that ignore your worthless drivel.

          Now send me some information about the women in your life who are of legal age so I can humpa humpa them and squirt my man juice into them and have me some bastard children.

          B====D ~~~~ chazb

  27. chazb says:

    YES, I believe that the public berating of Lendink (on social media) was wrong. People were upset, angry. People seldom think clearly when angry.

    • Break says:

      yet, you continue to not think clearly about the situation, despite you being 100% wrong and STILL not providing any proof of LendInk having your book illegally.

  28. Shawn says:

    just saw something interesting on twitter prior to her changing her settings…

    Miranda Stork ‏@Mirandastork

    Okay, I appear to have lost my DVD of Thor, so now I’m having to download it again :(

  29. Julie Reilly says:

    See what happens when you go away for a few days – you miss all the excitement.

    I found my book on LendInk MONTHS ago. It had a lovely review from the person lending it which I duplicated on my website (is that copyright violation, if I C&P someone’s review of my book?), but I did have a little “huh?” moment before I figured out what the site was all about.

    I can’t believe that some people didn’t read that bit on the Amazon kdp form which says that you have to enable lending in order to get the 70% royalty rate.

    However, and this thought just occurred to me, not all authors published on Amazon would have seen that form.

    Let me explain. My first book was self-pubbed. I saw the form, I filled it in, I knew that by enabling the 70% royalty rate I was enabling lending. So far so good.

    But, since then I have had two short stories and two novels acquired by an ebook publisher. So far, three of those have been published, all on Amazon and various other sites (under two different names as they are different genres). I did not fill in the form; the publisher did.

    So it is possible that an author who has only had their books published through a publisher might not be aware that all books priced over $2.99 have to have lending enabled.

    This was raised with our publisher by one author about a week ago and the publisher looked into it, explained to us all that it was totally legal and that by pricing the books at $2.99 or over, all the books were entered into the lending programme, and that LendInk were doing nothing wrong.

    BTW, people, the past tense of ‘lend’ is ‘lent’, not ‘lended’. Your books are lent, not lended :)

    Dare I mention that LendInk is not the only lending website out there…?

  30. Kouett' says:
  31. I missed all the excitement too, it seems. Not much to add that other intelligent people have not already said except to express my sympathy that this has happened to the LendInk site. I remember when Amazon first introduced the lending feature and several authors went ballistic because they felt they would not earn their money’s worth from that one lend. As I asked them: How many times have you loaned a paperback/hard copy book to someone? Did you mail the author money? I *know* for a fact that several of my readers share my books with one another (some share their whole darned kindles) – one lady told me that she, her husband, her son and her daughter had all read the *gasp* same digital copy (on the same kindle even LOL!) ! And my reaction was: “YAY!” because while they did not “send me money” for each read, the people they mention the book(s) to, and the people those people mention the books to, etc etc. WILL buy a copy (After all, they aren’t all going to hand their kindle around and each digital copy can only be loaned once per amazon and B&N!).

    As for many authors taking the time to read the FAQ etc… well… ha! I am an indy author who does book covers/formatting for others as well. I have a very detailed FAQ. I have a portfolio. I have a website. 80% of the authors who contact me have never looked at any of the three. They send me a quick note and expect me to tell them all the details in an email. *quick*quick*quick* because they either a – cant be bothered or b – do not have time. This is one of the reasons I am no longer taking new clients. However, there are those 20% who DO take the time, so not all authors are bad eggs :p

    I said not much to add but I lied ;) I know this comment is a way to get blackballed in authors groups and I guess that’s fine.

    • A.B. Dada says:

      Fuck the authors groups — they’re all about preaching to the choir and wasting time when you could be marketing yourself directly to customers.

      Go on some road tours, get on some podcasts and vidcasts, and get your name out there.

  32. Kouett' says:

    @MirandaStork just switched her profile into “protected” mode, right?

  33. David says:

    Lovingly dedicated to John M. Davis (author of Gunship), who inspired me to write this education piece for all readers.

    Readers should demand higher quality books. If you see a book that looks unedited, you can get yourself a better book. This is good for future readers so that they have well edited pieces, as well as for the author because they will be improving their skill.

    Don’t worry. Authors never receive information about who reports errors either. Amazon keeps things professional.

    Go to the bottom of the page the unedited book is for sale on Amazon. Go to the formatting section, and click the phrase “Would you like to report poor quality or formatting in this book?” Choose from typos, formatting errors or other issues. Be specific on what you found and submit.

    If Amazon feels the problems you found worrisome and that edits are necessary, the book will be pulled from being on sale. The author will then have to fix the problems in order for Amazon to republish the book. During that time sadly the book will have lost its flowing rank, and will sink into oblivion. However, good books eventually rise back up.
    And higher quality books are a good thing.

    So if you see books that are horrible at editing? Don’t simply one star them. Amazon doesn’t care about that, and it doesn’t make them better for the next reader. Simply let Amazon know in this way. They care about book quality for their readers.

    Besides, most professional authors wouldn’t have so much wrong that people would be able to tell by a mere sample it wasn’t edited? Right?

    And of course, be courteous to other readers of that author. If one book seems wrong, there may be others by that same author that need fixed. Why not try to help there too? Of course, each book will fall off sale, and yes, money will be lost for potential sales. But good quality is important, and the author I am sure will feel better for having the edits fixed.

    And don’t forget once the book comes back, to double check there wasn’t anything else you missed.

    For a good start, why not check the author I just dedicated this too? It’s good practice.

    Have a great day.:)

    • Shawn says:

      David I really like you. Improving the quality of books in this manner is only good for the entire ebook ecosystem. I believe that i shall start assisting the authors in proofreading their books in the morning.

      • Bernard Le Fur says:

        Maybe we should try to inform Amazon about all this. Hopefully authors that didn’t respect their contract will get banned from Amazon.

  34. terri dion says:

    I am friends with alot of the authors you’re showcasing and although I see what your saying I also agree with these authors. Indie authors are not like mainstream authors aka Anne Rice, Stephen King, Tom Clancy, James Patterson. They are working their butts off for very little pay offs and they feel sites like this are robbing them of their hard earned money. And I don’t believe for one minute that the site it’s self wasn’t making money in fact I know for a fact that they are and here’s an example:

    Webcity – $4.95 per month Web Hosting!
    Webcity domain name registration. Register AU and global domains plus related services such as url forwarding, email and web hosting.

    so you see it’s not that simple and the “ass hole indie authors” have a point
    slam me like you do every one else that doesn’t side with you but I stand by my friends and authors that I love!!!

    • A.B. Dada says:

      I won’t attack you, Terri, because you don’t seem to be part of the mob.

      So what if the site was making money? That’s what websites do. This site makes money, too.

      That website was making money doing legal things — promoting authors and giving book buyers easy links to Amazon and B&N to buy books. The site was NOT pirating.

      Your butt-fucking-without-lube author friends attacked the site that did nothing to harm them, and was in fact helping small authors get noticed.

    • Scath says:

      I…[stares]…I don’t even know what the hell I just read. Except I do, because I’m cursed with the ability to comprehend what I read.

      The website was an Amazon affiliate, and when it was, yes, the site owner was making money by pushing people to Amazon to BUY OUR BOOKS if they weren’t available as legal lends.

      Where…[headdesk]…Dude, really? Do you and your indie friends just totally not get what an affiliate program is? That it’s a good thing in that it promotes products on a multitude of sites around the net? That it’s FREE PROMOTION for authors when an affiliate lists our books on his site?

      I swear, the stupidity is thick enough to drown in. Please convince all your indie author friends to stop writing. Please. They’ll be doing themselves a favor by not having the platform to embarrass themselves over their ignorance anymore.

      I’m an Amazon affiliate. I have affiliate links to other people’s books on at least one of my sites. I think I have a little Amazon hosted ‘book store’ running loose too.

      I do it to promote other people’s books, and yes, to maybe make a little bit of money if anyone buys those books by clicking through my site. That’s what the damn affiliate program is for! It’s why Amazon has it!

      Gah. I just…damn, people. Stop being idiots!

    • Scath says:

      And you know what? I’m an indie author too. I work my butt off writing, I pay out of my own pocket to have my work edited and it ain’t cheap, buddy.

      But I know what an affiliate program is, and I certainly DO NOT feel like LendInk or similar lending sites are stealing money out of my pocket when I find my books listed on them.

      I’m grateful that someone thought they were worth recommending/listing! I am pleased as all get out when I find them on lending sites because some new readers just might choose my book to borrow, and like it.

      I do not understand how so many people who call themselves ‘authors’ just cannot seem to grasp what is such a simple damn concept.

    • DES says:

      Terri, could you please explain the connection between lendink.com (owned by a private individual based in Garden Grove, California) and lendlink.com.au (owned by a company based in Sydney, Australia), and how you think the owner of the former profits from income generated by the latter?

  35. Aaron says:

    Terry has a damn good point! Many Indie Authors feel the same way, that sites like LendInk should not be there. Problem is most of us have no idea to get rid of them. There are TOO MANY FREE books floating around right now, the last thing we need is a pile of “lending” sites. Do you think the people running these sites give a damn about anything other than putting money in their pockets? No. The biggest argument I have heard is that the site owner’s largest income is gone. And? What about the income due to the author? I commend every single author who fought for us and won. WON. I only wish you could see that YOU have become the mob. Twisting the facts and threatening others. Spamming, intentionally trying to hurt fellow authors and resorting to name calling when all else fails.

    • Stephen says:

      From Dale (of Lendink.com).


      Dale: “When I purchased the site, I was an Amazon Affiliate and the hopes were that I could make extra income selling books as an affiliate and then earn a little extra from advertising. Unfortunately, shortly after I purchased the site, Amazon and the State of California had a large dispute over the collection of Sales Tax and in response, Amazon cancelled all California Affiliates. This meant I could not make money from selling the books but it did not prevent me from matching people that wanted to lend their books according to the terms set forth by Amazon and Barnes and Nobles. Since that time, I have not made any income from Lendink.com. It was kept alive in the hopes that Amazon would some day open up the affiliate program to California businesses again.”

    • Mikko Tanner says:

      If you don’t want your books to be lent to other people, don’t choose the 70% royalty Amazon program. Simple as that.

      Of course, you lose out on income _and_ free publicity with that, but that’s your option. If you don’t like that… tough. At this point, being still uninformed of how Amazon lending program works is just ignorant.

      Maybe writing career isn’t the right one for people who don’t want their books read?

    • Okay Aaron I’m going to type this reeeeeaaaaallll slooooowww so maybe you’ll get it.

      We’re going to call this part part one.
      When you signed your contract with Amazon, at the very bottom, 2 spaces before you clicked the big yellow button that said “publish, there was a little block that said “enable lending”. Are you with me so far?

      Okay so, if your book was earning 35% you had the option of chosing if you wanted to lend your book. If your book was earning 70% the litte block was grayed out, so you didnt have a choice, the lending was authomatic.

      Now I can understand how you might have missed that, BUT, if you read the full contract, like any responsible person would, those terms are clearly stated and by clicking that big yellow button you agreed that you understood what you read.

      With me so far?

      Okay so now, we have established that YOU and no one else decided (either by clicking the little box or choice of price point) that your book could be leant by one Amazon customer, ONE TIME, to ANOTHER AMAZON CUSTOMER, for a period of 14 days.

      Now we move on to part 2 Lendlnk

      The site was basically 2 things

      1. A social network to help people with books to lend connect with other people who wanted to borrow. No different than if I went on facebook or twitter and announced that I wanted to loan my book ‘ Stupid Authors do Stupid Things’ to anyone who would like to read it, Which happens every day in book clubs by the way. Going to take down FB now too???

      2 They were an Amazon affiliate and as an affiliate the site had everyright, within it’s contract with AMAZON, to LINK to book’s and other products on AMAZON. (Infact it’s encouraged…imagine that!) Linklnd hosted nothing on their site. Every link went straight to either Amazon or Nook or a member with a book for lend. A fact that would have been obvious to anyone who actually took the time to investigate the site before lighting their torches.

      The only way doing this effected your sales and or profit is by getting your book/product INFRONT OF THE FACES of MORE potential CUSTOMER/READERS.

      Now here comes the tricky part.

      Let’s go back to the contract you signed with Aamzon. If you priced your book at %35 and you DID NOT click the little box to “enable lending.” Your book could NOT be leant by Lendlnk. Let me repeat that. Your book could not be leant. Instead, the potential customer was taken to your book’s sales page AT Amazon or nook and they were given the option to purchase your book. – Oh lookie there a possible sale of your book. How horrible! Let’s trash and burn the place.

      Lendlink profited in NO WAY from this action. Most affiliates earn %6 from a purchase linked to their site, but that does not come out of your pocket, because again, their contract is with amazon not you. But in this case Lendlnk was in CA and CA does not allow for this sort of thing at the moment (some disagreement over sales tax or other trash, the usual government greed etc.) So Lendlnk earned NOTHING.

      Got that?
      Let’s go on.

      If your book was at the %70 percent price point you automatically agreed to lending BUT still the only way your book could be leant is if ANOTHER AMAZON customer who’d purchased your book was a member of the site offering it for loan. And then it could be leant ONE TIME TO ONE PERSON FOR 14 DAYS. Got that? And if not, the reader was once again sent to your sales page to commit the unpardonable crime of possibly purchasing your book.

      The only thing Lendlnk is guilty of is putting our books infront of more reader’s faces.

      The things this group of witchhunting authors is guilty of is too numerous to count.

      Now dont you feel better?

  36. Cg Brumby says:

    Well I hope A.b Dada will prove true on his word by removing authors from this hate list who posted apologies for being misguided. Just because someone posts something in the belief it was true, doesn’t mean you have the right to continue persecuting them after they make a retraction or apology or delete the offending comment. I have apologised for the offending comment numerous times, and in good faith offered to help set matters straight among my writing neck of the woods. I was misinformed. No legal action was taken against the site by me. I wish the site owner well. After reading many of your comments on a blog (this blog) – (I found them to be highly entertaining) I can completely see how some authors could have got it wrong. I’m sorry and it wasn’t fair Lenkink copped a suspension or pulled down. Are all these public apologies enough for you, or would you like them to be written in blood to show you all the depth of my sincerity in my apology for a comment that has been removed? http://www.digitalmediamachine.com/2012/08/what-happened-to-lendink-owner-explains.html?showComment=1344455256964#c7598772193661539905

    • Davio says:

      Aaron, do you understand the role of LendInk ? It’s lending not “lending”.

      Amazon enabled loaning. Authors enabled loaning when signing the contract. If you want to bitch at somebody, try Amazon and lawyers of the said authors.

      terri dion, again


      If they fell they have been robbed, its’ their fault. Their contract.

    • Mikko Tanner says:

      Too late, Cg Brumby. The damage is already done, by ignorant and misinformed individuals like you. You have absolutely no excuse for not doing your research before accusing someone of committing a crime. Let this serve as a reminder to you that your actions have consequences, even on the Internet.

      Witch hunts like this are what gives a bad name to groups of people all over. Don’t partake in them.

    • Moe says:

      Apologizing only goes so far… They caused serious distress to Dale Porter and severly damaged his legitimate business. They should think about offering financial compensation instead.

    • Forever21 says:

      Oh do go and cry someplace else, where people care, we don’t.
      It’s funny you coming here and bitching about you being persecuted….oh your name is on the list..oh no!
      Get used to it bud, people will KNOW and the list we stay on.

      Only thing you are worried about is your name on the list and the possible sales retaliation and boycott against you.

      “Heck, I killed a man’s business…oops my bad. Sorry, can I have my name off now and nobody will ever know”?

      No! We all get to pay for being stupid! You’re not the victim here, Dale is.

      I have no sympathy for you whatsoever and for whatever is coming to you.

      Next time use your brain..first think, then shoot. We cannot just say sorry and forget about it. Too little, too late, doesn’t cut it!

      Now go cry some other place.

  37. Chuck says:

    The funny thing is that most of these “indie” books make pulp novels you find at the 5 and dime look like freaking shakespear.

    From a psychological standpoint this whole affair is very interesting. I think what happened is most of these house wives actually took real delight in thinking their book was being pirated. I mean, let’s be honest, exceedingly few of these “authors” are making any money off of these books.

    Rather, they invisioned someone actually thinking enough of their work to pirate it, and it excited them into a frenzy… “Hey, look at me, my vampire romance novel is being pirated, I’m a REAL author!”

    • Forever21 says:

      ” I think what happened is most of these house wives actually took real delight in thinking their book was being pirated”

      Lol, I agree, Chuck.

      The fact is that I don’t think that any of these authors are pirated on the internet, simply because..nobody’s interested?

      People share bestselling authors, known authors, established ones…not unknown indies.

      Another fact is that they killed one of the most important sites that could have helped them.

      What idiots.

  38. Thermal Curtain Failure says:

    And ignorance continues to beget ignorance.

    New awesome-epic-indie-author win thread started Yesterday at the KDP forums.

    Watch this thread for more gifted writers to add to this Meddlesome Menagerie.

    Here’s a choice quote from one of the posters regarding the take-down of Lendink:

    “A authors of amazon should be extremely proud of what they did. Ok, it may been a mistake, but it goes to show what solidarity between us all can achieve..”
    -Adolf HItler^H^H^H Mixus

    • Forever21 says:

      Now that is a real sad example of human being.

      I do not recall the last time I’ve seen so much malice and evil intent….”we know we were wrong…but we don’t care and we will continue to slander”

      They simply do no care that they hurt an innocent man, that they destroyed his work….what if any of them was in that situation? What then?

      Some of these douche-bags would rather eat dirt than just say a sincere “I’m sorry, I was wrong”

      What pathetic human being.

    • Thermal Curtain Failure says:

      User “mixus” still doesn’t get it:

      “I cant see why the Authors involved should feel shame for their actions.

      the actions by Authors can serve as a “shot across the bow” for anyone who is hosting a site that is pirating copyrighted material.

      they are the people who should take Author v LindInk.com case as a warning. ”

      The “pirates”, if not taken aback by the sheer ignorance, are probably laughing their scurvy asses off right now.

  39. Julie Reilly says:

    Those of you who feel your ebooks should not be able to be lent out, do you feel the same about physical print books? They can be lent multiple times, given away, resold at car boot sales etc etc and the author only ever gets that first royalty from the first sale.

    Way back in the 80s I was LENT – see, LENT – the first three books of a wacky little series by a then-little-known author called Terry Pratchett.

    I was 16 – didn’t have much money, and wouldn’t have been able to afford to buy them. So my boyfriend LENT them to me to read.

    I read them, fell totally in love with Terry Pratchett’s writing, and unwillingly gave them back to him. My love affair with Sir Terry lasted far longer than the boyfriend (three dates, although I am permanently indebted to him for the introduction).

    Since then, I have bought every single book he has ever written, as well as the adaptations of his books.

    In fact, now I come to think of it, pretty much every series of books I love started out with a lend.

    So, authors, don’t bitch about people lending your books out. If your books are good, people will buy them. And they’ll buy the next one you write. If they’ bad, they won’t. Simples.

    • I think another thing these Authors need to consider is this. They not only shut down a legitimate website that was HELPING all of us, and did harm to an innocent man.

      They have also pissed off the readers who used that site. Readers who after LEGALLY borrowing one of our books, may have gone on to purchase more.

  40. Simple Guy says:

    The Sad part about this is that because of this I’ve noticed books by authors that I would have really enjoyed reading…. and now I wont.

    Really Sad

  41. Kitty says:
    • Al Norman says:

      He’s obviously another moron who didn’t read his contract. He’s also obviously a moron who doesn’t know what an API is and how he granted the usage of his covers to Amazon, and by extension, anyone approved to use Amazon’s API.

    • Davis shoved that post into the memory-hole at some point today. He’s replaced it with some sort of plug for his Gunship book (what you are about to read is pasted verbatim, I shit you not):

      “Adam Michaels is a down on his luck space smuggler, that is until he is offered a chance to score the big payday by taking a job with the highly feared Hunter clan. The vampiric race places a young lady in the lap of the Gunship’s crew, and Adam slowly begins to fall for the woman he has waited an entire lifetime to find.”

      So… it’s about a stripper, innit?

  42. Cheezis says:

    A.B. should keep all the material pertaining to the authors and lemming shills who participated in this witch hunt. It may be used in a rather large defamation and slander case on behalf of Lendlink and the host.

    Trying to explain the finer points of reality with these self-described “authors” of failure is like playing chess with a pigeon. You can be the best chess player in the world, but the pigeon will just knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like he won the match. There’s really no point.

    • A.B. Dada says:

      So true, but I don’t want to see Dale do anything legal against these turkeys.

      The market is where our power is, not the court house. The only people who win in legal cases are the shyster lawyers.

  43. Ben says:
  44. Ethan Maas says:

    I did 2 minutes of research and it’s 100 percent obvious that no laws were broken, not even b.s. “IP” laws or even Amazon’s own Terms of Service. People should read the contracts they sign before getting butthurt about not being able to charge readers twice for the same item in the name of (artificial) copy-”rights”.

  45. Aaron says:

    So, to clarify, the owner has made NO money off of LendInk in nearly a year, yet is complaining that his income is now gone and the internet is about to go bye bye? Really? The majority of you are idiots. Sheep. Web hosts do not just cose a website for no reason, I don’t give a damn how many people email complaints. They investigate and then act. Again, kudos to those who actually “get it’ and have taken the high road with silence. The rest of you are welcome to continue beating the dead horse that is no longer making money for someone. Thanks to those who stood up and did the right thing. Legal thing. Their are no dings in your armor!

    • A.B. Dada says:

      Haha you’re worse than useless.

      I can’t imagine the shit you think is publishable.

    • Al Norman says:

      “So, to clarify, the owner has made NO money off of LendInk in nearly a year, yet is complaining that his income is now gone and the internet is about to go bye bye? Really? The majority of you are idiots. Sheep.”

      Yes, so let’s just forget about the threats made against the site owner and his family, or that he did not have the time to return the site to a money making venture but planned to do so in the future, and now he has to deal with all this bullshit because of people like you; no, I’m not saying you participated in the site’s shuttering. I am saying people like you because they, too, are dumbfucks.

      “Web hosts do not just cose a website for no reason, I don’t give a damn how many people email complaints. They investigate and then act.”

      False, and once again, you are a dumbfuck. You have a limited amount of time to respond to a DMCA notice. If the number of DMCA notices are too many or too timely to investigate, the safe move is to take down the site until the full investigation into each complaint is resolved, else the hosting company can be held liable for not acting in a timely fashion. The web host said it did exactly this. They offered to put the site back up once all complaints had been addressed.

      “Again, kudos to those who actually “get it’”

      Unlike you, dumbfuck.

      “and have taken the high road with silence.”

      Yes, when a travesty has occurred, let’s all remain silent. Wow, another dumbfuck comment from you.

      In summary, you are a dumbfuck.

    • Stephen says:

      “So, to clarify, the owner has made NO money off of LendInk in nearly a year, yet is complaining that his income is now gone and the internet is about to go bye bye? ”

      Aaron…where did you see this? Been reading about this for the last few days, but I haven’t see mention complaints about his income…

  46. Thought you might enjoy this, A.B. Shit apparently just got real for Mr/Mrs OG Tomes:


  47. J Anne Mauck says:

    As a self published writer, I am horrified at this whole debacle. Every single one of them who published through KDP with Amazon KNEW THEIR BOOK WAS LENDABLE as part of their contract. I am saddened to know that someone somewhere might mistake me for a moron because I published the say way as these idiots.

  48. Betty Swalleaux says:

    Kill yourself you cocksucking parasite. How d’you like them apples?

  49. Maddox says:

    I’ll post this here as I think some of the authors are watching this site.

    As a reader I will say that these writers have lost any sales they may have made to me and I will tell anyone who listens to not buy from them either. I will not threaten anyone, nor will I retaliate with one star reviews of any of their books. That is a line that I won’t cross.

    But, while I normally abhor one star reviews of books for any reason other than content, I find it hard to have sympathy for these authors if it does indeed happen to them.

    Why don’t I have any sympathy? Because I am not sure I see any real difference in this case between disparaging an author’s work without reading it and disparaging a web site and it’s owner without bothering to read the FAQ or do any research.

  50. The mob mentality that formed over a misunderstanding about this site is disturbing to say the least. I am an author and when I first heard about LendInk, I went to the site to check it out before I considered whether it was a pirate site it not. And it was simple, really. I checked the FAQs. Easy, right? Then, forgetting I had allowed lending, searched for and found my book. Did I go nuts then? No, I checked my book’s page on Amazon. Took thirty seconds. And what did I see? The lending option had been approved. Let me tell you, had I gone crazy with the copyright infringement speech, I’d feel like total shit right now; instead, I simply took that small amount of time to confirm what the thruth was. Hell, I even checked Amazon’s FAQs. Why couldn’t others just read for themselves? And the bigger question: when I tried to spread the word that LendInk was doing nothing illegal, immoral or unethical, why did people not listen? I know I wasn’t the only one trying to explain the truth about this site yet so many still attacked. I hope all this gets sorted out and Dale does not suffer any more for this.

  51. Kouett' says:

    I contacted some authors on Twitter. Most of them blocked me, or deleted all their tweets and blog posts, or ignored me, or simply vanished.
    One of them, though, sent me his email address to get in touch and explain to me his version of the story. And I just received it, a long answer. This should be brought to his credits. Added to his claims that he didn’t send anything to the website owner, or filed a complaint, I personally think he’s honest and transparent.
    This author is Douglas R Cobb, and I won’t place any negative reviews on his books.

  52. A.B. Dada is that is even your real name:

    In terms of supporting you fellow authors, you have no place in our community. In the epub world which is rife with piracy, this was a situation in which the owner of LendInk did nothing to contact the authors, nor explain his purpose. Some books were ineed pirated. Others were not.

    You should make sure that before libeling the authors involved, which you clearly have by your written salacious comments, including to me, that you have your facts straight.

    The writing community looks to other writers for mutual support and gracious understanding. I am shocked and dismayed by your total lack of commraderie and disdain for your peers. What a shame and waste of writing skills.

    Please remove your libelous remarks. There is free speech and then there are violations of law.

    • A.B. Dada says:

      You’re too ugly to give me a blow job.



    • Maddox says:


      “Some books were ineed pirated. Others were not.”

      How can you say that when any number of sources has proven that there was no piracy happening at the lendink site? It really boggles the mind that you would continue to make that claim.

      Your Facebook post as quoted above is particularly bad, threatening class action lawsuits before you fully understood the site or apparently your own contract with Amazon.

      Even your blog post on piracy shows that you don’t fully understand that Amazon allows two types of loans. The first is the Kindle Online Lending Library which can only be done by Amazon. The second is loans from one kindle owner to another. This is what the LendInk site was facilitating.

      Please take a little time and educate yourself on these facts before threatening legal action.

    • Al Norman says:

      Jeaneatte Vaughn,

      You should shut the fuck up. This site was not for writers. It was for readers, and it socially connected those readers for a service that, if you, as a writer, had lending enabled on your book, agreed to allow. It did not lend the book. It did not host the books. It had no obligation to inform any writer what it is was doing.

      Speaking of libel. Your comment on your blog: ” I tested it with my own book, they were doing it live…..NOT through Amazon Kindle loan.” Is libelous because it is a lie that has been through the web host that has also verified that no book files were hosted or linked from the page. Admit it instead of trying to make people sympathize with you with lies. And I’m not afraid to say you lied that you downloaded your book from the site because the truth is the ultimate defense against libel.

    • travelsonic says:

      Jeanette Vaughan says:
      August 12, 2012 at 8:20 am

      Jeaneatte Vaughn,
      “In terms of supporting you fellow authors, you have no place in our community. In the epub world which is rife with piracy, this was a situation in which the owner of LendInk did nothing to contact the authors, nor explain his purpose”

      That … makes no sense.

      Who cares how much piracy there is or isn’t, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to look at a website, and if not sure re-read, or ASK questions. Had you done so, you’d see what lendInk is REALLY about. And you say A.B has no place? That is ironic coming from you, since you are willing to tear into a website that is acting legally in a way that benefits authors, without doing an iota of research yourself.

      “Some books were ineed pirated. Others were not.”

      In the context of LendInk, that is incorrect, NO books were pirated.

      “You should make sure that before libeling the authors involved, which you clearly have by your written salacious comments, including to me, that you have your facts straight.”

      Oh, the irony.

      Oh the ****ing irony, lady, pointing out you are wrong is not libelous, but the cruscade you jumped on IS.

      “The writing community looks to other writers for mutual support and gracious understanding. I am shocked and dismayed by your total lack of commraderie and disdain for your peers. ”

      You have one weird definition of support. Hint: It does not mean you never correct somebody when they are wrong.

  53. Sye says:

    I didn’t actually find out about this until a few days ago – but what I have been reading over the last few days has been making my skin itch!

    Lendink.com did nothing wrong, and only served to enhance sales and recognition. And those that had a hand in it’s death should be utterly ashamed of themselves – disgusting!

    I am an indie author, and I wrote my book with the express intention of getting it out there any way I could. My book is a true story of abuse I suffered as a child, and the suseqent aftermath my life endured. I wanted to expand my reach to a wider audiance as possible, in the hope of helping other voiceless victims – Lendink would have served me a great platform in achieving this – but no – writers who couldn’t read, or understand basic facts destroyed it !!!! And in turn – limited my book’s reach;

  54. There are other lending sites that are available, in fact I have some of my books listed on http://booklending.com/#!prettyPhoto

    Stop by, check it out.

    I also had some of my books listed on LendInk and fully support book lending.

  55. Al Norman says:

    I see Jeanette Vaughn made a new post on her blog.


    I doubt my comments would make it through her moderation, so I will post them here.

    Jeanette, first off you need to understand what libel is before you go around accusing others of it. If I call you insulting names such as bitch, whore, cunt, or any such term that the usage is centered in opinion and does not constitute a valid opinion.

    However, if I were to call you a child pornographer, which has a clear definition and act tied to it, then yes, that would be libel if untrue.

    Calling you a liar when I point out your blog post, where you claim to have downloaded a direct copy of your book from LendInk, is not libel because I have the truth on my side. Since LendInk did not host books – verified – you lied about downloading a book directly from LendInk.

    Now, you, on other hand, when you claimed to have downloaded a book direct from the LendInk site, which was impossible, and by extension accused LendInk of piracy – both of which are false and demonstrably so – you are guilty of committing libel.

    And since I’ve yet to see anyone accuse you of any untrue claims, only opinion – and opinion is defensible from libel claims – then the only person who has committed libel is you.

    • Al Norman says:

      Second paragraph should say: “…or any such term that the usage is centered in opinion and does not constitute libel.”

      • Scath says:

        “Blogs that have slammed and childishly called Indie authors by name degrading adjectives are committing libel.”

        Calling someone an ‘idiot’, ‘asshole’, or whatever IS NOT libel. It’s an opinion, and there’s this thing called ‘freedom of speech’….

  56. I hope this correspondence finds you well.
    I have been working to find an already established fund campaign for Mr. Porter, and your T-Shirt post is the only one so far which I could find. Is this a fund raising campaign which you feel comfortable that others promote, or is there another one you know about which would be more appropriate?
    Thank you

  57. annon mouse says:

    I hope plenty of other are making copies and screenshots when they come across libelous statements. A lot of authors are deleting them and trying to revise history now that they see they cannot win.

    Those who sincerely apologized and retracted as soon as they were told they were wrong can be forgiven, but most waited until they saw they were going to be held accountable by the public, and then equivocated, at best. Or they post a “high road” blog, while still spewing nonsense in other places.

  58. John Overall says:

    I am a bit late to the party here but since I usually spend the rest of my week working and my Sundays catching up on news of the week I am not too late on this one.

    After catching an article on twitter and having it lead me here this has been great entertainment.

    Now for my turn to add to the fun.

    While I do not agree completely with A.B on his thoughts on copyright I do agree there is no sense is chasing them. What you need to do is make sure that if and when they steal your work they never discover that they are really working for you for free promoting your work or to make you more money by pointing folks back to the original work.

    It truly amazes me how many authors who have books out there are really too stupid to have actually written anything to begin with. Since they seem incapable of even comprehending a simple contract or lack the ability to understand what “FAQ” means .. It is (Frequently Asked Questions) and only legitimate websites tend to have them. Pirate sites do not need to tell their users how to do stuff. So if those authors would have taken a couple minutes to discover the process of the site as shown in these screen shots of the Google cache of LendLinks FAQ (page was too long to fit into one)

    They would have seen that it was a legitimate place for their books to be listed. Or maybe they think that no one should know they exist…

    I would like to explain a couple of thoughts here to the incredible number of really stupid authors that went on the attack and tell them how they lost out. LendInk was supplying links back to Amazon for buying books and they helped connect readers with each other to borrow books via Amazon or B&N now if these books could only be lent once and if that link was still up on the site after the book was lent out its one time 14day lend period then that link would revert to a buy only one. So now Lendink has not only found a new reader for a lent book in which they only get 14 days (REPEAT 14 DAYS) to read it if they do not complete this and they like the book then they have to buy it. Also anyone else coming along will have to buy it now..

    Well can anyone one of you ignorant authors tell me how you were hurt and lost money? And do not try and say it was the money he could have been making off Amazon since after all the money paid to affiliates is built into the price. If Amazon makes a sale without an affiliate it means bonus cash to them. Maybe they should also educate themselves on how affiliate programs work. They could make money that way since their books are not selling..

    On a last thought so that this does not go on as it could. The commenter and author who was on the attack Jeanette Vaughn in the last post to her site she claims to take the high road but never admits to her part in this wrongful take down of a legitimate website and as I have read many of the so called authors have all done the same and instead of accepting the fact that they fucked up here and start trying to undo the damage they have done, are trying to explain away their ignorance with more ignorance.

    Somewhere I seem to remember Ignorance is not a defense….

    For those authors that have made apologies and some half heatedly you should be working to undo all the damage by sending out tweets and Facebook posts retracting all you said and helping Dale to repair his site and its reputation. Maybe even giving him cash..

    John Overall

  59. Here’s another one for the list: John D. MacDonald. Taken from the AbsoluteWrite forums. MacDonald manages, in just a few sentences, to conflate Lendink’s being mistaken for pirates with rape and murder.


    • Correction: should be JAMES D. MacDonald. I was thinking of an actual, respected author when I wrote this. Not really sure why…

    • Al Norman says:

      I’m not quite sure he is saying what you think he is. It looks to me like he is simply saying that people thinking you are bad in an uncontrolled society is not good for the person who is thought bad of.

      That’s about as neutral as a comment as I can fathom.

    • Maddox says:

      It still amazes me that these authors don’t know the rules regarding lending. Very few of the complainers seem to realize that there is a difference between user lending and the Kindle Online Lending Library.

  60. Ollie says:

    From my understanding LendInk was/is not any different than ebookfling, Lendle or several different other sites. I have lent a few books and borrowed a few. However if lending a book is wrong then arrest me now. I have always lent out my print copies of books. Lending an ebook is no different than lending a print book.

  61. Philana says:

    The actions taken by these authors is really foolish. First, many authors who commentend seem to thinks someone needs your permission to have a link to thier book on Amazon. Guess what…I review books on my blog and it is perfectly legal for me to have a link to where people can purchase the book. As an Amazon affiliate I can also recieve a small amount a of money taken out of Amazon’s portion (not the authors). No books were hosted. Secondly its perfectly legal to lend an ebook from Amazon…and there is nothing wrong with facilitating owner A who has a book contacting Borrower B to borrow the book.

    I often buy books I have borrowed. Amazon often also gives away the first book of series free, guess what if I like the free book, I end up buying the rest.

    You may choose to not loan your books (but before accusing this site of doing that, check your facts). All lending has to actualy happen on Amazon or B&N site. Publishers have had a similar attitude towards library lending of ebooks, sadly its going to hurt sales. There are some books that require the borrower to hook up to thier computer to get the book from the library, guess what I don’t borrow those. And guess what I won’t read those new authors or end up buying their other books. Why? Because they made it too difficult to access the book. I borrow library ebooks that will download over wi-fi. And I have bought some of them later.

    What these authors did was falsely accuse Mr. Porter of pirating thier books. You own the copyright to your work, but not to the link for that book on an online store…anyone can make a list of books they like on their websites (its not copyright infringment). Mr. Porter was NOT distributing any books…he was helping people legally lend and borrow books they had legally purchased. What they did was slander Mr. Porter…now they are upset because the reading public found such action to be wrong. Why would I want to purchase a book from someone who slanders another person. I find such actions to be wrong, I really would not want to read their work.

  62. David says:

    Inspired by yet another lovely author. Keep on inspiring me, fellas.:)

    Just, you know, doing my part to help people out. Feel free to copy and paste if you like anything here.:)

    How to mess with authors on Amazon (and make the review stick)

    Amazon will remove reviews that mention lendink. They aren’t being biased, they often remove anything that mentions other sites/retailers. When people go 1-star in an evil fashion mentioning lendink or author behavior, they will be gone in a couple of days. No trace left for that author. I’ve already watched them come and go. I’ve even seen one author wanting to email Amazon about each author where these revenge reviews will be targeted too.

    Authors will get away scot free with that approach. With this post, you will not only get your review to stick, you can give reviews that piss authors off the most. Ready?

    First of all, make sure you only do this at Amazon. This is where most authors make their money, and the less you mess around in other places, the less likely authors can find you/your blog. Make sure you have no blog and/or email showing anywhere in your account. You want to be invisible, a random reviewer.
    Quick Tip: Don’t write all at once. Go review some deserving books with fives, and some with 2,3, and 4 stars. Space the book reviews out over time. The longer you take and the more reviews you make, the more legit you look.

    Kindle Delivery Review: Customers that have trouble getting a book delivered to their kindle do come back to ebooks and one star it. It pisses authors off a lot because there’s no control over that for them. It’s completely Amazon, but Amazon says it is part of the customer experience. I have seen authors literally gather their posse to report/comment, and Amazon does not remove.

    Grammar Nazi Review: Read the sample, and dissect every single thing you see wrong grammatically. Not my piece of pie, but if you want to drive away people who care about grammar, it helps. Read as much of the sample, making sure to note every tiny little thing you see. If done right, you should have a short book report review.

    Basic Review: Don’t underestimate the little guy. A review that simply says ‘this book was boring and it sucked’ can’t really be against the rules. Although this doesn’t bother authors as much, it’s quick and easy.

    Historical Reviews: There are two types:
    Regular Historical: If you know your history, and an author screwed something up, make it vocal. Wrong year? Was something not invented yet?

    Historical WTF: Amazon never says the reader is wrong. If you don’t know anything about history, remember. Amazon won’t delete simply because the reader didn’t understand.
    “The Disco ball wasn’t invented yet? I wrote about a historical war, wtf?”
    Sometimes, you can anger an author enough that they will comment back, trying to get you to see reason. Maybe then you’ll remove the review? If they ask where you saw it, simply say it was on some page past the sample.

    Genre hate review: Is this a Romance author? Say it was too romantic, and you hate romance. Did they write Scifi? Say it was the worst piece of Nonfiction you ever read. Does the cover have a half naked woman on it? Say you were appalled it wasn’t Christian fiction. This really pisses authors off, and once again, Amazon often doesn’t remove.

    Mixed Up Book Review: Don’t want to read a sample? No problem. Think about another book you read that you hated. Make sure you don’t add the title or author name. Paste that review on the other author’s page. The author will probably come back and comment, saying you have the wrong book. If they don’t, trust me, they are emailing Amazon. And guess what? Amazon will usually leave it.

    Graphic Language Review: Does the author write tamer books with no graphic language? Write about how you were unprepared for the nudity, the language, and vast inappropriate rude scenes. Does the author have a warning about graphic language? Say it was misleading, and that the book was much tamer than you expected.

    The Reverse Review: Worship the book as if you loved it, but leave it one star. “Bestest book in the wholest widest Worldy worldddd!!!! One star all the wayyy!!!!”

    The unedited review: Talk about how unedited it was, making plenty of grammar mistakes in the review. Think twitter. There is nothing more annoying to an author than someone talking about editing that can’t actually write.

    Formatting Review: Is the book spotless? Doesn’t matter. Say that some time past the sample page, everything goes funky and it’s unreadable. If the author comments back, ignore them or just stay general. The author will then be searching desperately to figure out what is wrong. Meanwhile those seeing the recent review won’t want to buy it.

    Cover Review: (This has such potential) If the cover doesn’t look like it cost too much, mention how amateurish it looks. Dish it out. You will need some other type of review about the book itself, but make sure the cover is mentioned. If the book cover looks great, say it was misleading or generic.
    If done just right, the author may eventually go back and recover their book, spending their own hard earned money on an unnecessary recover.

    Wrong Book in a series Review: Go to the second book in an author’s series instead of the first. Read some of the sample, and complain how it didn’t make any sense at all. You can even mention how it felt like you were dropped into the middle of a story already in progress.

    The Planted Review: This is very nasty. There is a chance Amazon will remove it. They might even ban your account, who knows? However, the time it is there, it will do its job. You will need two authors that you don’t like. Do not do this to a good author.
    Think about another author’s book you hate. Before ending the review add a little dash at the end, and add the name of that book. (For best results, get an author within the same genre.)
    This causes distrust between them. If you’re lucky, the other author may actually post a one star revenge review on that other author’s book, believing it was actually them. If you’re extra lucky, the other author may come back with their actual account and one star the other too.

    This last one is not a review, it’s a comment. The worst thing an author can do is comment rudely on their own book review. Sometimes, pen names are used or an ‘author’s friend’ approach. For this to work, you need to find a one star review already written previously. Underneath that, add something like this.
    “How dare you say that! I am a friend of the author and I know for a fact that her book is much, much better than you say. You need to read it again.”

    One more reminder. Do not mention the author’s behavior, any sites and/or retailers. If you do, the review will probably not stick. When it doesn’t stick, the author’s average goes back up, and you accomplish nothing. But when one stars remain, their average goes down. When their average goes down, places they use for promotion won’t promote them. (They usually like a 4.0 average. Bring it down to a 2.0 and they are untouchable.) Take away these beautiful things, and their sales are affected. Sleep better knowing they are not that same night.:)

  63. Shannan says:

    I’m an Indie author and I don’t care that Lendlink had my things. Could’ve cared less. That is all.

  64. Karen says:

    Thank you for this list. I will not read these authors. If they are too ignorant or lazy to research and find out what Lendlink really did, they are probably too ill informed to write a book worth reading.

    It is despicable that they joined together to destroy a legal website that performed a service that would have been beneficial to them. They would have probably tried to “take down” lending libraries and used book stores (which are where I learned about many of my favorite authors that I purchase) years ago.

    It is disgraceful to attack without fully informing yourself.

    • Allie says:

      Like Karen, I appreciate this list. I will not use it to give bad reviews on books I haven’t read, or to publically shame anyone on it. But I will keep it as a list of authors whose books I will never purchase. They contributed to the destruction of a legitimate endeavor, so they will never see a penny of financial gain from me. Actions have consequences, and while ideally these authors should see legal consequences if appropriate, I realize that is not likely to happen. So all I can do is my small part to contribute to monetary consequences for them all.

  65. Araliss says:

    Looks like Helen White deleted her twitter and Blog and has gone into hiding.

  66. Stephen says:

    Well, looks like they’re coming back:


    “We are working on restoring Lendink on a new host. We thank you for your support and should have the site fully restored in a couple of days.”

  67. According to various websites and Blogs on the LendInk issue, I was one of less than a handful of real authors who tried to slow the mob and endorse the LendInk site as a legally operating referal site. I realise that lists have been posted giving the names of authors who forced the site to close, with the suggestion that readers should BOYCOTT those authors. My name appears on the couple of lines of the second list, the list of those who supported LendInk. Now I am wondering if taking a stand was wise, because my sales have plummetted since my first in August. (It is listed above on the FaceBook posts.)
    It seems that supporting LendInk’s position as a lawfully operated site has had an adverse effect on my writing career. perhaps this post will encourage you to rush out and buy one of my EBooks… or borrow one if you find one available.


  1. [...] if you haven’t heard the full story yet, LendInk.com is a small ebook lending site that has been forced offline. It was a very straightforward business model – they let users register, and users listed [...]

  2. [...] happened with Lendink. If you’re taking the time to write a protest sign (in this case: a tweet) with misinformation then you’re a greater problem than the thing you’re protesting. I [...]

  3. [...] Buckett, under his pseudonym chazb, visited my blog and left this initial comment.  Click through it and see how he talks about his lawyer, and why he attacked LendInk, and why he [...]

  4. [...] Since this is really getting out of hand, here’s the tl;dr: Many writers, who we expect to be masters of word and context, are apparently just stupid. Here’s a list of some of them: LendInk taken down by asshole indie authors. [...]

  5. [...] As the headline says… is anybody out there not angry about something in the world of digital books? There’s an incredibly furious argument going on right now about the closure of a site called Lendink. A stream of authors, most of them self publishing as far as I can see, turned on Lendink when they saw their works listed there for lending. Some of them accused the site — wrongly — of piracy. And a furious Twitter stream followed, some of which you can see here LendInk taken down by asshole indie authors. [...]

  6. [...] Unfortunately, when the livlihood of their sales is threatened, as is in the recent blog post by A.B.DADA that is hard to [...]

  7. [...] LendInk – a list of lendable books from the kindle store.  Mistaking it for a pirate site, the authors took their pitchforks and torches to LendInk’s hosting company, Amazon, and the poor owner [...]

  8. [...] de titel “LendInk taken down by asshole indie authors” kwam er vervolgens van de kant van de [...]

  9. [...] Douglas R. Cobb – in contact with reader, possible apology? [...]

  10. [...] website was shut down. There's been a lot of coverage of this mess, some of it pretty hyperbolic (such as this blogger, who urges revenge on the presumed instigators, apparently blithely unaware of the irony of drumming up a lynch mob in judgment on another lynch [...]

  11. [...] unfortunate that piracy paranoia plagues innovation in the book world. (Lendink, anyone?) But far from being a rogue pirate site, Ownshelf looks to be an essential tool for sorting [...]

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